Top 20 Ridiculous Plot Holes in the TV series Lost
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Sure, I love Lost as much as the next fanatic, but you can't deny that there are a huge number of gaping plot holes in this series. **SPOILER ALERT** Not that any of this would make any sense to you if you haven't watched the show ;)
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Before coming to The Island we see that he has odd psychic powers, and then after leaving The Island with Michael he appears to the survivors at random to give helpful advice and act all freaky.
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Food for thought
According to the myth of Mayans, the souls of the dead had to follow a dog, who had night vision in horrible wet conditions and had to withstand numerous challenges before they could move into the afterlife.
This is a great example of another," I have no clue so you're dumb for not getting what I concluded in my own mind" concepts....it seemed to me they were all "special" in some way, but for some reason they just never decided to elaborate on Walt who had what appeared to be the most sensational special ability of them all.
Walt is "special". That's all there is too it. The extent of his powers aren't known. The Origins of his abilities aren't known. But does it really matter? Walt was always destined to be the true protector of the island IMO with evidence from the epilogue "The New Man in Charge".
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S2 Ep 14 - Ben caught in Danielles trap. She acts as though she has never seen him before.
S5 Ep 12 - Flashback - Ben steals Danielles child from her tent. His face is very visible.
She may be crazy but she has a great memory for what has happened and where things are on the island so the argument that she is crazy is bull****. The argument that he was in the darkness when kidnapping is bunk as well.
Roussou would have tortured the **** out of him. She stole a mothers baby and tortured Sayid just in the off chance she could get more info on her child. Instead She just hands over her kidnapper. Plot ****ing Hole
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I suppose if she did recognize him, she knew that the 815 survivors would probably torture him. which is exactly what sayid and locke did. They might even kill him after learning about his leadership or that he stole roussea's baby.
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I don't even know where to begin.
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The Dharma Wheel, The Eightfold Path is where u begin. It is a reference to buddhism. The eightfold path is the path to enlightenment. The 8 spoke wheel room has the akh bird on the pillar Ben has to walk past to get to the wheel. The Akh is part of the ancient egyptian death beliefs about the soul and the body being separated and reunited.
How is this a plot hole? Its just you being ignorant of the shows mythology.
They do in the FICTIONAL universe of Lost. Its science FICTION, Remember that.
Ever heard of teleportation? Well the EM field on the island Added with the negatively charged exotic matter (Also on the island) can create a wormhole, adding water to the light by turning the wheel expands the EM field opening a wormhole.
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So Daniel Faraday comes up with the brilliant idea to blow up The Island after they've travelled back to the 1970s so that they can stop The Incident from happening and therefore prevent the Oceanic flight from ever crashing in the first place. Sure, sounds like a great idea. But after they detonate the bomb, nothing has happened. No one dies from the explosion, not even Julia who was laying about 5 feet from the thing (she does die soon after from other injuries though). Everyone seems to suffer from tinnitis for a few minutes, but that's about all. What was the point of the bomb then? What does all this mean?
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What we saw on the Island AKA Purgatory was not a current event but a memory and a glimpse into what originally cleared the dharma compound. The first time around the detonation was not shown however the second time around it was represented as a broken time line because the young mad scientist (that studied time travel) told the others to bury the bomb. This put the survivors of the plane crash into other peoples memories of life. When the Dharma peoples lives ended at the detonation of the a-bomb, so did that time line hence the appearance of time travel. So they were never traveling through time they were traveling through memories.
The bomb was basically 2 things: 1.It sent the survivors back to the present and 2. Caused the Incident which caused their plane to crash in the first place. So basically the opposite of what Faraday said happened.
The whole "flight 815 never crashed/ alternative life" Had nothing whatsoever to do with the the bomb, The "Flash-sideways" was something everybody experiences, Providing the light(Humanity's umbilical to the afterlife) is protected.
if the bomb never exploded, why does the whole "flight 815 never crashed/ alternative life" thing happen. And I swear, If you mention that they simply have been dead the whole time, you will be convincing me that the whole show is a hot mess of a confused and confusing story.
The Bopmb never exploded, the opening of the EM pocket merely sent the Losties back to their own time, Predicted by Jacob "Theyre coming" and Julia?? proves my suspicion that YOU NEVER WATCHED LOST.
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Is The Man in Black can leave The Island to haunt Jack Shepherd in the form of his father, why doesn't he leave permanently?
We are told that all The Man in Black has ever wanted was to leave The Island. Fine. But if The Man in Black is able to appear as Christian Shepherd in random offices buildings and hospitals in Los Angeles, why doesn't he just do that all the time? Is he stuck on The Island or not?
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It wasn't the MIB it was jack's hallucinations from drugs and drink
Jack was dead from the first episode on. He was in purgatory the entire 6 seasons. He was holding on to memories of life. He was not hallucinating he was just working out his unsettled demons he had while alive.
Jack was on drugs and abusing Alcohol from the stress of leaving the island so he was just hallucinating. But the "Christian" on the island was the Man in Black.
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For the first five seasons we see Richard recruiting people in the U.S. to join The Others. We also learn that he consults Ben about how best to lead The Others. Then in Season Six we find out that Jacob gave Richard the job of helping humans choose between good and evil. Really? Well he's been doing a **** poor job since The Others are known to kidnap children, abduct pregnant women, lock people up in cages, and kill and torture people. Yeah Richard, you're doing a bang-up job teaching morality lessons.
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Richard died on the black rock in the 1800's he was not immortal he was a lost soul who was given a reason to stay in purgatory. This is why he didn't age. He is the equivalent of the Grim Reaper. He was not recruiting people to come to the island he was delivering them to purgatory.
Richards job was ultimately being a link between everybody on the island and Jacob. Jacob gave Richard immortality to be a "mediator" of sorts.
Jacob didn't want to directly interfere with anything, so he used Richard instead.
Also, Richard only tried to recruit Locke because Locke himself told Richard (when he was travelling in time) he would have been The Others' leader and that he could check it by visiting him as a kid.
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So she randomly meets Desmond and gives him a yacht. Then she coincidentally is a mental patient in the same institution as Hurley, but she is also a psychologist? Huh?
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I'm really just open to the fact that maybe hurley is batshit crazy and they REALLY might just be inside of Hurley's mind.
Pretty much everybody is connected together before they met on the island so that explains Libby/Desmond and Libby/Hurley connections. She was in the asylum after her husband died
Libby explained to Desmond that her husband's name was David. Hurley had an "imaginary" friend in hospital named Dave. Coincidence? Probably not. Libby's infatuation with Hurley is down to the fact that he seems to be communicating with her dead husband which later links to the fact that Hurley is in fact able to talk to dead people.
Libby was married before arriving on the island. At some point her husband died of an unknown illness and she became mentally unstable, so she admitted herself into the same institution that Hurley was in, because they both lived in the same area, like many members of Flight 815. After she got better, she happened to run into Desmond. Sympathizing with his plight, she gave him her husband's boat, feeling that he would have wanted Desmond to have the boat. According to her, she initially trained as a medical student, but dropped out in her first year. She eventually became a clinical psychologist instead. Anyone can go crazy, even psychologists.
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In the first season, there was a whole lotta healing going on. Locke was no longer a cripple. Rose no longer had cancer. Mikhail came back from the dead a variety of times (only to be blown up by a grenade and drowned). And yet Ben gets spinal cancer, and in later seasons no one seems to be saved from death by The Island's powers at all. Why not save Alex from being shot? Or is The Island done with healing people now?
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The island didn't heal them they "healed" themselves because they were in Purgatory and not ready to let go.
You have to remember that the island is essentially a character too. The goal of it was to reset peoples lives and Ben never redeemed himself whereas Locke and Rose let go of their attachments (not having faith). Pretty farfetched but I can roll with it
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So in addition to working at a box company and being pushed out of a window by his biological father, John Locke also has in his shady past a time in which he was living on a commune growing marijuana? Say what? Why? And why is it never referred to again in any of John Locke's flashbacks? I think the writer's need to stay away from the wacky tabacky themselves.
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And why is the guy from the Others the leader of the commune, but Locke doesnt recognize him on the island?
Not a plot-hole but I do agree it is a stain on a past-story of my favorite character on the show. Defiantly his worst flashback
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Massively important in the first season, barely a consideration later in the series. The numbers are known to drive people insane, to help people win the lottery, to show up on your odometer, and to be the all important code to stop an electromagnetic explosion. Makes perfect sense.
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Actually the number are everywhere after season 1. Addresses, phone numbers, on cabs and in buildings. They're very subtle but they're there throughout the entire series.
My theory is the numbers are basically Jacobs way of leading some people to the island such as Rousseau and Hurley without actually interfering with their lives. Also the last remaining candidates were part of the numbers
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We are led to believe that because the survivors detonated a nuclear weapon that maybe this has some correlation to The Island being underwater in the parallel story. But in reality there is absolutely no reason The Island to be underwater since the survivors are actually in the afterlife. So what gives? Was it all so they could just show us that poorly done CGI shark?
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That was the afterlife right? maybe somewhere down the line, another person pulled that plug and it sank. And so it's sunk in the afterlife.
It was symbolism that the survivors weren't tethered to the island forever. The afterlife proved it was always about the characters which I enjoyed more than the mysteries.
As a visual metaphor!! In the afterlife, the Island was "submerged" in their subconsious, it no longer played a role in their percieved "lives"
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When returning to The Island, how does half the plane wind up in the 1970s and the other half crashes in the present?
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"the candidates" were the people who wouldn't let go and realize they were dead and it was their time to move on. They were on a journey they needed to go on in order to let go. Rose was ok with it for a long time she was only kept there to "enlighten" the others
so why did the other poeple from oceanic 815 travelled through time ? like rose or bernard and the others ? they were not candidates too
I think the question isn't, why didn't sun and the others get transported, but more why DID Jack and his group?
The candidates were sent to the past. Locke was dead so he didn't go back in time. It was reveled in season 6 that mothers couldn't be candidates so Sun was excluded. But what I don't get is why Kate wasn't excluded because Jacob even says she took on the role of a mother
The people who were zapped into the past were candidates and were never suppose to leave The Island. If they had never left, they would have time traveled with the rest of the group that eventually landed in 1977. So when they returned, they went where they belonged. The rest of the passengers weren't candidates.
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Ben says it's a security system to protect the temple, but later we learn it is the spirit of Jacob's dead brother. And what's with the mechanical clicking sound it makes?
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I think it's a smoke monster because the writers were going to have vulcano instead of a water cave. but budget was spend on temple
It isn't jocob's brother's spirit it only took his body, it is simply the embodiment of evil in this shows lore, the clicking is the sound of locusts
Revelation 9:1-12 This explains why some were killed by it while others were not. It describes the "smoke monster" to the T.
The mechanical clicking sounds it makes are actually the sounds of Locusts. Pretty confident it's a religious reference.
Its basically the dark to Jacobs light. Its pure evil mixed with Jacobs brothers mind. Across the Sea is my least favorite episode of the series and they didn't do a very good job explaining why he turning into a pillar of smoke. As for the mechanical noises I have no clue
The smokemonster is a physical representation of "Evil incarnate" combined with the MIB's consciousness/soul, The mechanical chain sounds sounds are a metaphor as he was "Chained" to the Island.
This is literally the ONLY point on your list that actually has any relevance. The rest have either been specifically answered, were heavily implied or left deliberately ambiguous. You're either very stupid or very inattentive (or you already knew that this list is BS and posted it anyway, for traffic or whatever).
But anyway, why DOES Smokie make those noises? In the pilot they even had Rose recognising it as the sound of a subway train in NYC. I suspect that in the early days of the show they intended it to be some kind of robot or mechanical device, but changed their minds. Who knows.
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Of course they can change the teeth. Veneers, tooth paint, blackout... they do it all the time.
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Just saying? Even with a vat of Dharma Initiative ranch dressing, the dude is trekking all over an island by foot. He's bound to drop a lot of weight.
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Because they were only on the island 3 months, Hurley was established to eat a lot! Plus if you look closely he did lose weight gradually as the show went on, but he then put on quite a few pounds once he left the island, which actually points towards the writers and producers level of detail!
No he should've dropped weight. He said the island wouldn't let him. Eating fruit, fish and water alone he should've lost about 30 pounds in a month
Because dead people don't diet. Hurley died along with everyone else on his flight the FIRST episode. The island they were on was not really an island it was purgatory. They explain that in the last episode.
Ok 1. They were only on the island for 3 months and 2. In those 3 months you find out Hurley has a eating problem and find out he's been sneaking food around behind the survivors back
I swear some of you people never truly watched the show. lol.. Some people think they were on the island for 6 years lol..
1. They had plenty of food. 2. They were only there for 3 months. 3. He acctually did lose weight.
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in “A new man in charge” how does Ben have a folder of cds when in the main series all dharma cds were clearly blown to smitherines
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In season 3 Juliet says that Claire was the first woman to give birth on the island. What about Danielle?
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And actually Jacob's mother is the earliest on cera birth if you ignore the fact Juliet wasn't around for her to know.
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Ben says he has some magic room where he can make anything appear, and then lo and behold Locke's father is chained up inside the Black Rock for him to confront one last time. Huh?
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The others kidnapped him. Now to those saying that the sub couldn't return after leaving, it's proven that there must be a way to travel to and from the island since both Jacob and Richard are shown traveling off island at times where the sub supposedly couldn't return
If your familiar with Purgatory then u know people who are there are there because they have unfinished/unresolved business. If u watched further on in the show u know that Locke has a second story line where he killed his dad in a helicopter accident that left him crippled. This story line was after his dad was murdered by Sawyer on the island. Prior to that his dad threw him out of a window and crippled him. This is simply the writers way of showing us that he did resolve the issues he had with his dad.
Yes but it was also stated that the submarine could not return to the island once it left so how could the others kidnap locke's dad and bring him back to the island when it was impossible to return to the island on the sub?
The submarine is used by the others to travel between the island and the real world. So most likely that they kidnapped Locke's dad.
Literally none of these are plot holes. These are questions that have all been answered on the show.
It was clearly shown and said that the others kidknapped him and brought him by order of ben to belittle and manipulate Locke...his rival for leadership.
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I'm starting to believe that you didn't pay attention to the show. The island was going through time shifts and.... never mind because I'm pretty sure this answer is obvious.
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We learn that Ben Linus keeps a huge stash of currencies in a secret room in his house, along with a nice big pile o' passports. How did this come about? If Ben helped kill off the Dharma Initiative to join Richard and The Others (who at the time were a bunch of nomadic savages), how does he have access to all the money, passports, detailed personal information of all the survivors, and most importantly VHS tapes showing the Red Sox winning the 2004 World Series?
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Ben died with his dad in the Dharma van. Since he was not willing to let go he saw himself surviving the atomic detonation (the incident) by wearing a gas mask (a gas mask won't save anyone from an atomic detonation) His access was a result of his unwillingness to let go and move on to Heaven or hell. He was full of rage and hate when he crossed over. They say over and over again that when u get to the island your life b4 there didn't matter. Ben had a lot of things to work through. He sums it up in the last episode when he tells Lock that he just wanted to be special.
It says in the series that The Others can leave the island so there ya go.
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None of these points are plot holes, they were all either explained in the show or meant to be left with a sense of mystery! And for all the people saying they were dead the whole time ffs you idiots!
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The writers have said many times they wrote that episode because people hated those characters, and so they wanted to if they had to go, go out horrifically
Their story was just as relevant as everyone else on the Island. They died with unfinished business, getting their hands on those diamonds. As soon as the Island was finished with them they moved on. ;) I took that as a BIG CLUE as to what was really going on, on that island. Course not till hindsight kicked in.
This is what we call a "filler" folks...add an exta week to get the main story straightened out...come on with the b.s. Answers your. Ind has made up to convince you things made more sense than they did...smh
Yet again, not a plot-hole. I enjoyed the episode to be honest. Its not top 10 material, but its certainly a great episode that could have been a disaster.
This Is my absolute favourite episode of all six seasons. It's totally unexpected, it's completely different and it provides one of the most chilling endings of any story I've ever seen/read/heard. It seems like it's just a short break from the full on stories that are going on throughout season three and yes, a way to kill off some annoying characters who were trying to push their way into the limelight but what a way to do it!
I loved that they discovered the secrets of the Pearl station and the Beechcraft before anyone else and had their own adventures the whole time everything we know is happening.
Not only that but the structure of the episode is phenomenal, bringing some old characters back, involving current ones and even re-shooting the initial crash is an incredible feat.
And that moment Nikki opens her eyes as she's being buried gives me goosebumps every time. Ooooooohhhh.
You clearly don't know what the term "plot hole" means. The point of the episode was to a) show events on the Island from the perspective of "outsiders" who weren't the main characters and b) to kill off Nikki and Paolo, who everyone hated.
The writers wanted to try something different with that episode, which hadn't been done before in the series. They just wanted to tell a little story. It also allowed for the arguably pointless characters to be disposed of from the show in an interesting way.
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Why exactly does Charles Widmore want to control The Island? Why is he willing to simulate an entire plane crash and plant dead bodies in the ocean? Not to mention the fact that he hires a bunch of mercenaries to kill Ben Linus and everyone else on The Island. What gives?
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First realize that EVERYONE on the island was dead and in PURGATORY. Charles Widmore was not willing to let go of this fued he had prior to his death. He was stubborn that's why he was stuck in purgatory. The "staged" flight was merely a clue for the rest of the people on that flight that they were dead, they just weren't willing to believe "let go" which is why they were all stuck there too.
Widmore is just power hungry. He wants the island all for himself. He made the plane crash so everybody would stop looking for the survivors. He wanted to capture Ben to learn how to get back to the island
Widmore planted the fake plane because he didnt want a massive search for the Island, and for it do be discovered by the authorities, He was a power mad ego maniac who wanted the Island all to himself. You clearly did not watch LOST.
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And why don't they bring more people back to life that way?
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His dip in the "magic water" may have been a reference to baptism where people are saved, forgiven for their sins.
sayed didn't have the same sickness as Rousseaus' team. Her team was sick from radiation poisoning. Sayed was being consumed by darkness (HELL the devil) he was in PURGATORY after all. The people whom were on his flight (and walking through purgatory with him) pulled him back because they cared about him they saw the good in him that he could not see.
The magic water didn't, the MiB did. Jacob was dead by that time so the water didn't work. Later in the season you find out Sayid was "claimed" by the MiB and was infected with the "sickness" that Rousseau's team got.
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Not only are there polar bears on the tropical island, but there are numerous references to polar bears sprinkled throughout the first season. For instance, Hurley has a comic book with a grimacing polar bear on the cover. How did the polar bears get there? Why were they there? Except for a reference to the polar bears figuring out how to get a cracker in the cages quicker than Sawyer can, the polar bears are hardly ever mentioned again. What gives?
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The polar Bears were brought by the Dharma Initiative, they were brought because the dharma people were experimenting on them. (As shows on season 3, they were experimenting their ability to get the fish biscuit) they were experimenting on them because polar bears are known to fastly adapt to new habitats, and the dharma initiative was facing a lot of magnitism and radiation, so they needed animals capable to adapt to it so they could study the environment. This was explained mostly in season 3, and season 6, when Charles Widmore was torturing Desmond with radiation, because he could adapt like the polar bears.
Dharma brought them there. This was answered as early as season 2 and was made obvious in season 3 with the polar bear cages. Watch the New Man in Charge if you want it spoon-fed to you.
Dharma brought them, They experimented on them, The bears escaped during the purge, Some survived, Some bred, Sawyer shot one, THE END. How did you not know this?
if it has been answered, guys, why don't you type out why instead of stating a fact implying that you don't know/ can't remember.
In the 70s Dharma brought them to experiment on, when they found the wheel they used them as test subjects to turn the wheel, remember the skeleton in tunisia??
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It's the only plot hole in the entire show and not questioned at all. They were born on the island (purgatory) and grew to adults. Every memory they had involved the island.
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