so the ministry of magic thinks it's perfectly okay to send someone to Azkaban or to get a dementors kiss, but yet there are rules for using the truth potion (i can't spell it but it's something like "Vertiserum"). They could easily tell who is lying or who is telling the truth by using it and save innocent people (like Sirius Black) from fates of life imprisonment or having their soul sucked out. The morality of this is crazy. I would understand that they don't want to use the truth potion because it's unjust, but isn't it better then having some innocent person get their soul sucked out?
So. We're supposed to believe that during Ron's first year that Fred and George NEVER checked up on or looked at Ron on the map to see that there was a "Peter Pettigrew" next to or near him? Ever? Recall, F&G "nicked" the map from Filch's office in THEIR first year, so they'd had it already, and even if Molly didn't know that they had it, she wouldn't have said "Keep an eye on your baby brother this year, it's his first year..."??? Or that they went through two (and a half, almost) years of Ron being there with "Scabbers" that they NEVER ONCE saw Ron next to a "Peter Pettigrew" and if they did, they never asked him who the Hell Peter Pettigrew was? As rabble-rousing as the two boys were, we are supposed to believe that they never once checked up on their little brother before they gave the map to Harry?
All the other "Plot Holes" on this page have been idiotic..... but this one is the only one that I've ever seen.... and it is an actual plot hole.
Why did harry have to go thru the triwizard tourney just to get to a portkey? Couldn't Crouch just have been all like "hey harry take a drink out of this giant cup" and skipped over the risk of having harry die during the trials, or someone else getting to the cup first?
We know that Dumbledore's original plan was for the Elder Wand not passing down to Snape when the latter kills him, for the killing was agreed upon. All fine for that. But: as it can be lost when taken forcefully (it passes to Harry when he wrestles Draco out of HIS wand while at the manor), I am to conclude that, had Dumbledore's plan gone as planned, the wand's allegiance would have passed to Voldemort when he removes it from the tomb, just like the latter says at the end of the Battle of Hogwarts). Really Dumbledore did not expect Voldmeort to break into his tomb? I do not find it convincing that the wand's power would die out after Dumbledore's death.
The real "plot hole" part of this is that if Harry had just done this, they could have shown Fudge the scene and proved that it had happened. Clearly, Dumbledore already had the pensieve, because Harry had used it to accidentally witness the three Wizengamot's trials while in Dumbledore's office. Of course, one could argue that Fudge just wasn't willing to believe Voldemort was back, and wouldn't have watched it even if they had offered him the chance- but that still doesn't explain why Dumbledore makes Harry relive the "horrors" of the graveyard scene by retelling them, when Dumbledore and Sirius could have just watched it instead.
Why didn't the sorting hat see that Peter Pettigrew is a total coward and does not have any qualities a Gryffindor should have? Why was he still sorted to Gryffindor?
I don't understand why Sirius didn't tell Harry to just use the mirror whenever he broke into Umbridge's office the first time. He asks if everything is all right and Harry says he just wanted to talk about his dad. Seems like Sirius should have told him to get out and go back to the dorm and use the mirror, it'd be much safer and you can bet Sirius carried his half of the mirror at all times just in case Harry was in trouble. Even if Sirius wasn't aware that Harry was breaking into her office to use the fire, he and Lupin both know that the fires are being watched so it still wouldn't be worth the risk.
This isn't exactly a plot hole, but it does seem fairly inexplicable. The TriWizard tournament is a pretty major sporting event... two-thirds of which, apparently, happens totally unseen by the spectators. Everyone gets to watch the event where the contestants try to take an egg from a dragon. Then, in the second event, the contestants dive underwater for about an hour, and then come back up - and no one gets to see what they're doing down there. Must be really riveting, sitting and watching a cold, dark lake while everything worth seeing happens far below the surface. Then, in the final event, the contestants enter a maze - where once again, everything they do is completely hidden from the view of the crowd. Imagine "watching" a football game where after the first quarter, they cover the field with a giant opaque dome and then just tell the crowd who won at the end... that's what watching the TriWizard tournament is like. Why on Earth was everyone looking forward to this snoozefest?
In Harry Potter, wizards can apparate/disapparate as they wish, but they depend mostly on owls for their communications? Doesn't it strike anybody as fairly odd?
There are also communications through fire, but you have to make special appointments... With all that magic around, how come there is no spell that performs instant communication? Muggles are so incredibly much more advanced than wizards in that area. Well of course the answer is easy - it makes it easier to create plots - but the result sounds pretty lame.
Crouch aka Moody went through all the trouble to put Harry through the TWT just to get him to touch a stupid cup. But why did he overlook the *huge* detail of having the portkey being able to take Harry *back* to Hogwarts? Even worse why does the portkey take him back to the *front* of the maze rather than back to the portkeys original location in the center of the maze? Also, if you're able to make a portkey that works by touching it, rather than by going off at a specific time (Since this was obviously how the portkey worked in GoF, because Crouch couldn't have known exactly when Harry would get to the portkey), why didn't they create the portkeys to the Burrow like this in DH, so you wouldn't run the risk of someone missing the specific portkey time?
Why was the time turner (at the end of the 3rd book) NEVER USED AGAIN for any other (serious) problem?
Why didn't Harry (or anyone else) use the time tuner to kill Voldemort or revive anybody, etc.? Why didn't Voldemort use the time tuuner (or an equivalent to it) to kill Harry? Since there were no limitations of the time turrner (going back for a certain amount of time or an X number of times, etc), why didn't anyone ever consider going back in time?
Voldemort is supposed to have been one of the most powerful wizards of all time. The Stone was moved to Hogwarts so the teachers could protect it. Now in DH, the teachers show remarkable skill in magic (i.e. Bringing suits of armor to life), and manage to hold off Voldemort's advancing army of wizards, werewolves, and giants. Yet, in the first book, the traps they set up to keep just Voldemort out aren't strong enough to keep three first years out. I mean, Hell, they got through the Devil's Snare because Hermione remembered learning it a few months back... AS A FIRST YEAR!
If Harry's survival is one of a kind, how do the whole wizarding, in a short time after it happened, figure out that Voldemort is "dead" and Harry survived a Killing Curse?
Not much of a plot hole but, isn't it a also bit funny that in the whole history of the magical world, there is no other documented case of a person escaping death due to a loved one's sacrifice.
Is it just that way everyday or did the Death Eaters do this? Either way, Voldemort could just easily walk in there and take the Prophecy himself. No one would have seen him. What's the point of tricking Harry into this whole thing?
How can there be so many plots involving secret rooms and passages in Hogwarts when there are so many speaking ghosts around that aren't hindered by walls? The plots of at least the first two books are based on hidden places that ghosts don't know anything about, strangely enough.
There was a death snake in the sewer for fifty years. Dumbledore knew this. This is somehow not on his list of priorities?
In book 7, after the fight in the diner, Harry suggests that they should wipe the Death Eaters' memories. Hermione steps up the the plate, saying that she's never done a Memory Charm before, but that she knows the theory. HOWEVER - Hermione had previously explained that she made her parents forget that they had a daughter, which would indicate that she had performed the spell at least twice before (once per parent), Furthermore, it must have been a very complex and powerful memory charm to make the subjects forget completely about their only child (speaking as someone who for 9 years had only one child, I can say with some degree of conviction that it would take something pretty major to make me completely forget her existence!). This isn't really a plot hole, since it could be fixed by changing a single line of dialogue, but it is an error. (I must admit, I didn't see this one until I saw the most recent movie.)
Dumbledore says before he and Harry set off to the cave, that they are setting off to find and destroy one of Voldemort’s Horcruxes, yet when they get to the cave, they don’t seem to think about, or know how they are going to destroy the horcrux that they thought they were going to recover. When Dumbledore is about to drink the potion, he doesn’t know what the effects on him are going to be; he could be paralysed, forced to forget why he was there. He tells Harry to force the potion down him but he gives no instructions on what to do afterwards when the Horcrux is now accessible and Dumbledore is affected in whatever way by the potion. You would have expected him to perhaps tell him to destroy it (presumably with [[Godric Gryffindor’s sword]] that Dumbledore brought with him, did he actually bring it?) and maybe bring back the incapacitated Dumbledore to Hogwarts. To me they did not plan well, so what were they out there to do, merely find the horcrux or find it and destroy it? Now offcourse, what happens is that Dumbledore merely hallucinates, becomes weakened and thirsty so they just about managed to get away with the fake horcrux, but had the potion made Dumbledore forget everything for example; Harry would not know what to do. And that makes me think about Regulus Black’s horcrux hunt. He knew a lot less about horcruxes than Dumbledore, but he did know that he was going to die (he told kreacher to leave him to die in the cave), but he seems to have also poorly planned his hunt. It can be assumed that he did not tell Kreacher, nor even find out how to destroy them (he didn’t even tell Kreacher that it was a horcrux, did he?) What do you think?
It's not exactly a plot hole, I just feel it's one of the stupidest details in CoS. Hermione had been in the hospital for days, Madam Pomfrey, Dumbledore and who knows who else were examining her and caring for her, yet no one other than Harry and Ron ever bothered to notice that her petrified hand was clearly grasping a piece of paper?
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