Best cities to live in in Ontario, Canada

Ottawa is has a though work market, if you don’t speak French you are screwed! Also the city is green but boring, best services are library and bus services, but they are expensive to run $100 month pass! I find that housing is very expensive $1300 per month on most town houses if you don’t want to live in an area with social housing nearby. Overall It is good if you have a steady and well paid job if not forget it.

Lived there for 19 years, one of the best places to grow up! For those that say there is nothing to do, look around and get outside. From neighbourly parks, rivers, bike paths, beaches, parliament buildings and downtown life, rock-climbing facilities, multiple gyms in every small community, lots of wonderful schools..and need I have to mention how great the teachers are! Not even including all the other events and organizations that take place from wonderful hockey games, races and celebrations. If you have never been to Ottawa, please make an effort to visit and explore the surroundings! Every town offers different things, I grew up in Orleans and had family scattered throughout western and eastern Ottawa. All every nice places, some just more developed than others. BEAUTIFUL PLACE!

To the person who moved from BC ( where ?) to Ottawa.... Look around where you live in Ottawa, and become more aware of what is going on with going green. Try to become more positive in life.

I moved to Ottawa from BC last year and don't find the "coldness" referred to in these comments. Rather I find my neighbours collectively much more outgoing and friendly. Things I notice that are bit annoying about living in Ottawa, besides the cold winter, are pretty small and are as follows: 1) Drivers: lots of dawdling when light turns green, ridiculously slow turning, refusal to pull into intersection when making left turn with oncoming traffic (this seems bizarrely universal, as though Ottawans just don't learn this basic skill) and a few annoying people who stay left on the highway when not passing; 2) it seems to be acceptable to park on the street in front of stranger's houses repeatedly for extended periods of time. Everywhere else I've lived (Vancouver, Victoria, Seattle, Los Angeles) this would be considered extremely rude and unacceptable 3) For a Canadian city, people really don't take care of their gardens/homes very well. In my neighbourhood of $750K homes, I routinely see unmoved lawns and tonnes of weeds. This lack of pride/laziness is sad and unfortunately must say something about the city.

Ottawa should be well maintained and beautiful it is our tax dollars paying for that and also the high salaried government employees. Terrible city for anyone thinking of relocating - the people are as cold as the majority of our politicians and the winters....full of themselves, all they care about is buying designer clothes and being self-important I caution anyone to is thinking of moving there! never move back there!

it is mostly good.

Awful! Lived there for 4 years, bitter long winters, humid summers, what a wonderful place. The cold disconnect of Toronto, without any of the fun and convenience.Do they still rollup the sidewalks at night.Dreadful, I hope to never have the misfortune of spending another moment there.

Beautiful city with tons of cultural landmarks, museums, and great restaurants. Easy access to Gatineau park for hiking or skiing. It's the best of both worlds

It is a beautiful city with countless things to do. Unfortunately, the cost of living is quite high, especially the artificially inflated housing market.

"Artic Winters and California Summers" is how I discribe Ottawa.. oh, and beautiful - but so many places are. Lived there for 3 years and it has it all. It great for young professionals but there is also two Universities and a College there so LOTS of students and OHHhhh the night life. Being the Capital of Canada, there is ALWAYS something happening and most often it's free... freaking amazing I tell you... lots of beaches and biking trails.. efficiant transit system and it forces you to buff up on your French. Something I think each Canadian should speak fuliently at.

VIVA OTTAWA! For the best government jobs, the rideau canal and the market!

Ottawa is Better than all places in canada.

Cold environment and I am not just referring to the weather. People are not very friendly. Rideau st. (major road in the core area) is full of people begging for money, drugs being dealt. A short spring is followed by a miserably hot and humid summer. Winters are long and cold. Aggressive motorists. The whole city needs a good dose of fluoxetine in the drinking water

Claen, safe, international, unique summer tourism and travel activities including the Lady Dive amphibus (See article " Amphibious Buses – They Float on Water and Ride the City Streets") and winter activities in the renowned skating rink (See article "The Skating Rink of All Skating Rinks" ) both at the articlesandblogs.ezreklama.com web site if you wish. . Anyway, that's what I think.

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Oakville is a beautiful town. I lived in Oakville for 14 years and now live in Etobicoke and miss the clean streets, advance green traffic lights, well paved roads, safe neighborhoods, friendly faces and of course Whole Foods and Organic Garage. Downtown Oakville has wonderful shops and just up Trafalgar there is Whole Foods. Nestled between Burlington to the west and Mississauga to the east ... this is not a loud party town .. if that's what you are looking for...stay in Toronto!

Oakville is a town not a city

oakville rocks its the best citi to live in people are nice and laid back they just dont care.

Cute and well maintained downtown, but shuts down by 9pm. Traffic is AWFUL

Niagara-On-The-Lake/St. Catharines is a great place to live, as long as you have a medium income job. Many great schools, malls, and a new state of the art hospital coming in the following year will make it a worth while place to live. 150, 000 residents in the area and the atmosphere of about a town with 10, 000. Very friendly people, and a very exaggerated reputation of being a slum city thanks to two small streets both not even half a km long, in which the Niagara Regional Police keeps well under control. The area is surrounded by grape vineyards, and is centrally located between Hamilton and Buffalo.

Oakville is by far the safest places that I've lived. I grew up in oakville. People are friendly, clean, and diverse. Great place to live and raise a family. Better than the cities listed above.

While Oakville is a beautiful and clean city, the residents are intolerant of other ethnicities. I owned a business in Oakville and found that racism is prevalent. While my family did its utmost best to serve our clients with impeccable quality and after a few blatant racism encounters I figured it out: it's not me doing something wrong in the manner that I conduct my business but the social mentality of the people of Oakville. While this is a generalization and I do not mean to say that all residents of Oakville are keen on "preserving their community", it is my experience. Several years after my business went bankrupt I was watching a travel show that presented various tourist cities around the world and they mentioned that statistically Oakville by population ratio and proportion is the most Caucasian city in the world. This justified my own suspicion. So for some people this may be the perfect choice to live and raise a family. However, for ethnic minorities it may prove to be a challenge. There is a marginalization tactic that keeps other nationalities out of the city.

....that persons right, unless you have a helicopter, you better find a job east of Oakville cause heading west towards Toronto will waste 20 hours of your life in traffic per week......thats about %25 of your free time crawling on the highway, given you work 8 hours and sleep 8 hours.

Oakville is a great suburb, clean, low crime, teenagers can be snooty, live at home till their late 20's...good place to raise a family, good schools, very little night life. Nice downtown, right on Lake Ontario. Millionaires (and lower income) south of QEW, average to higher income north of highway. Its well kept, with higher property taxes.

i went to Sheridan College and lived in Oakville for 4 years. It's beautiful, scenic, quiet... but EXPENSIVE! You need a car - transit will take forever... but, it is on the Go Train line for easy access to Toronto and the GTA in general! Lots of shopping and community activities. I recommend it... but only if you can afford it!

I lived and owned homes in Oakville for almost 20 yrs, but enjoyed living in Burlington a lot more after I moved there. Traffic, especially in Oakville has become a nightmare.

yeah Oakville and Burlington have the same feal, both cities should be in the top 5

lol oakville should be near the top of this list.

except trying to get in or out of Oakville is an absolute nightmare. you have the QEW which is basically a parking lot. live and work in Oakville but I wouldnt recommend it to commute

Downtown Burlington is great. It's walkable and somewhat vibrant at night. Waterfront is great.

I lived in Burlington for 20 years growing up, and the second I could move out of that uppity, snobby city I did.

Grew up in Hamilton. Have lived in Burlington for 25 years.Burlington is the absolute best place to raise kids. ..lots of parks, every sport imagineable and great neighbourhoods. Visually the city is beautiful. People are well educated.Just enough diversity to keep things interesting .Everyone take great pride in their homes. Very low crime rate. Close to GTA and US border. Gorgeous waterfront and new Performing Arts Centre.Keeping up with the Joneses is a favourite pastime.LOLThere are some snooty people here, but I just avoid them.Most residents are very friendly. Many own pets. You need a certain income to afford this lifestyle.Once you get here, you won't want to leave.

I love being by the water and park at Spnecer Smith Park! Family, single or retired can enjoy this lovely city! My Burlington love you! Oh and born n raised here I will never leave this fabulous city!

Lived there for five months, all I could stand, had to move before I died of boredom! I renamed it "borington" when I was there, was so happy to move back to a real city!

I'm Burlington born and raised... after highschool I moved a few times during college, and after living in St. Catharines, Welland and Toronto, I am proud to be a resident of Burlington. Our streets are litter free, and safe. We just don't have "a bad end of town". We have a beautiful lakeshore, tons of parks, and it seems the city is forever expanding. The QEW runs right through- making it a snap to get to Toronto or Niagara (when traffic isn't brutal). I will probably stay in Burlington for life!

I live in Burlington. I live 1 km to Mapleview Shopping Centre, my favorite mall ever and 3km to burlington mall

Beautiful, this place is a giant strip mall!

Burlington is an amazing place to raise a family and live well. Although it is a very British born city, the people here are very friendly and very classy. People here generally have money so people are put together well and everything is clean. Crime rate is very low.. beautiful place. should be way highter on the list.

Burlington is rated as 3rd best city in Canada by Money Sense magazine. This did not surprise me at all. I have lived in Mississauga and Toronto and by far - Burlington has been the best experience for us! Great place to raise a family or even be kid-free or single -especially in the downtown area. It's only getting better!

Guelph isn't a nice city. It's very old, need to be rebuilt in certain areas and has a difficult and unreasonable garbage system (because of all the environmentalists who live there). The new housing areas are nice though. They need to do more to control pests in apartment buildings and housing.

I was here two years ago and am back currently for the summer. Guelph definitely has potential; it's a killer place to be and still is, but to be honesr this administration is definitely starting to take a toll on my original feelings for the city. Many residents feel that this is no longer a small town and I couldn't agree with them more. The current administration makes this city too good to be true. The downtown is slowly but surely breaking down and noone seems to care, not much vibrancy. The northern part of Guelph (although the older part of the city) is turning very slummy if not already. There seems to be more drug dealing/ pathetic delinquents day by day. Poverty has skyrocketed, probably due to those ridiculous tax increases and it being a bedroom community. The low unemployment rate is so contradictory to itself. The friends I know from U of G are not even from Guelph and plan to go back to their respective home towns and have even recommended other bigger places like K-W for me to check out. Transit I must say is definitely worser than London and very disorganized. I had to walk all the way from downtown to Stone Road by foot, one Family day. Though I was not the only one as other residents were just as pissed and claim they were not aware of any service cancellations for the holiday. Perhaps it's time someone else take charge AS WE NEED SOMEONE WHO TRUELY LOVES GUELPH!

Guelph is an awesome little city with lots of flavour, good beer and an eco sensibility. If you like to ride a bicycle and garden, then Guelph is your city.

guelph is okay should be 14 switch with london

Unfortunately for Guelph we have a major that is obsessed with our three bag garbage system. So much so she is sacrificing alot of other city services. It is a wonderful place to live we just need to oust the socialist major who spends to much time living in the land of make beleive.

Great little university town with lots of good restaurants and pubs.

I've lived in Kingston for close to 15 years now. It is falling apart. The good jobs are vanishing, the unemployment rate keeps staying low because the unemployed residents are moving out of the city, the main reason, its too expensive to live here. The housing market here is totally over priced, we have one of the highest property taxes in the eastern region, the food prices are insanely high, the list goes on and on. The local government is wasting money, they arent repairing anything, they are basically fleecing the residents out of their money as much as possible. The crime rate is skyrocketing. Violent daylight crimes are increasing (dont be surprised if you are mugged at knife point here). The pollution is terrible ever since the nearby coal reactor came online a few years back (which a large proportion of the residents have no clue about). Cancer rates are skyrocketing, chronic illnesses are skyrocketing. This place used to be a great place to live, but now I'm thinking of getting the hell out of here.

I personally love my visits to Kingston! My grandmother lives there and I'm always so proud of the people she has in her community to get her involved and active at her age! Everyone is very friendly and outgoing and need I say in shape. Some of the best and most interesting (running) races are held in this location, I have been in a couple myself, beautiful race spot along the water! Looks like a great town to live in!

Love Kingston! Friendliest folks ever. Though I agree with the notion that it's a divided city - half educated elite, half [by Toronto standards - backwards] small-town.

I've lived in many cities in North America and we LOVE living in Kingston. For the size of this city there is a lot to do.More restaurants per capita than any city in Canada. Lovely old buildings, the waterfront is gorgeous. The tourists love it here in summer too! We are equal distance between three major cities and about five hours from New York City. It's easy to get across the border to go to Syracuse or Rochester too. Flying out of Syracuse is WAY easier than fighting to fly out of Toronto or Ottawa and faster. The schools are fantastic especially K.C.V.I. which is considered one of the top high schools if not the very top in all of Canada. We have Queen's U., RMC and St. Lawrence college for higher education opportunities as well as a plethora of smaller training schools. Kingston was voted one of the top most educated cities in the world this year. It's the second most popular retirement city in Canada after Victoria B.C. for a reason! Lots to do for a city this size minus the traffic, loads of cultural entertainment, a fine artists community. Great schools, very pretty and picturesque. We have great sailing here too. Kingston is consistently voted among the most livable cities in the world.

I've lived all around the world and many of the cities and towns mentioned here, Let me tell you that kingston is by far the most beautiful small city you will ever see, you are located right in the heart of the thoudand islands with a thriving downtown and waterfront, there is tons beautifull parks as well as a rich history being an old city, it has the most returaunts per capita then any city in Canada, wehave a brand new Arena downtown that brings in world class acts plus our OHL hockey team, the malls and shopping are fabalous, downtown is perfect, Montreal and Toronto and Ottawa are not that far away (take your pick) plus New York State is right accross the lake and is only 20 minutes on the ferry, We have a world class University that is gorgeous, We have a huge Military base that keeps the city recession proof as well as great hospitals and schools,I could go on and on, kingston is canadas hidden gem, the only negative things I would say are the cost of living and rent is way too high, but what I like kingston for the most is its a small city with the heart of a big city, Kingston is far enough away from Toronto and other major cities not to feel like an extension of the gta like all the other towns along the 401 corridor, Kingston has its own soul and a lot of that has to do with it being the first capitol of canada and all of its history, I was born in Toronto and lived in europe and in the States but I have called Kingston my home for the past 12 years and I'm proud to be a Kingstonian,

Not a friendly place at all...you've basically got the Queens elite snob crowd, the CFB crowd and then Rideau Heights....everyone else is in the burbs and the country and they just keep to themselves and their tight little family and friend units. Can't wait to leave. Yes, the downtown is being rehabbed, and about time, but yes, money is being wasted in the local government like you wouldn't believe.

Kingston is a good city but should NOT be on a 'best cities to live' list. Money is being wasted like crazy! Rent is WAY too high for a city this size. A full house (3 bedrooms, 2 bath, laundry room, rec room, 5 appliances, front and back yard, garage) in Barrie costs only slightly more than a 2 bedroom apt in Kingston.

Kingston is the nicest city!

I was born in Kingston and after living in Toronto(well Richmond Hill) nothing compares. Richmond Hill is not even a community. Toronto has its great features but unless you live close to your job and do not have to fight traffic its not that bad. I am ready to go back to Kingston because after being away 15 years you really appreciate what you had. The quality of life is better there plus you have lakefront property and you are right smack dab between Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto and New York States. Kingston has so much to offer as a living community with all these added features. It takes 2-3 hours to drive across the GTA sometimes it takes less than that to get to any of these cities from Kingston. I have travelled all across Canada and having lived in and around Vancouver(Breathtaking) and in Halifax they are my other choices along with Calgary except there are no real bodies of water in Calgary. Halifax is beautiful too if you like serentity but it does feel like you are way on the other side. Kingston for me because I was born there probably and appreciate its historical importance is number 1 for me and highly recommend it for anyone else thinking of living somewhere where you can live and not just exist. We have the beautiful lake there and lots of tourists in the summer. And don't worry about the penitentiaries when they get out they are gone towards Toronto and St. Catherines-even to BC. It is a very safe city. Friendly people. Lots of famous people have homes in the 1000 islands. They need more developing in the downtown core however as I have noticed areas which have died mainly along Princess Street. Kingston will always be beautiful in my eyes all the way up towards the Ottawa Valley

great city redeveloping downtown streets , dirty downtown ? I don't think so, but princes street in bad shape downtown but part of a redevelopment plan for upgrading sidewalks sewage etc, queens university, historic,friendly inexpensive to live and buy a home, no congestion easy access to toronto ottawa and montreal, and the crime rate is low because of higher per capita number of police because of the four major pens.

Nice city in a nice setting.

Kingston's crime rate is actually 4% below the National Average. I've lived here and a number of other places and other than the main street downtown on the morning of garbage day, I've never found it to be dirty.

Kingston is dirty and has a high crime rate. #1 should be Belleville, ON!

I moved to Peterborough 33 years ago and love it. If you actually look, there's so much to do here, it's hard to keep up. Peterborough is #1 for the # of seniors living in 1 city because of our new hospital, our new Wellness Centre, the arts, theatre, shopping, transit system, the multitude of great restaurants, lakes and rivers. Sure, the city like every city has it's downfalls but that IS what make a city a city. We miss most of the bad weather predicted for our area. We can be from 1 side of Peterborough to the other in about 10 minutes, out to the lovely countryside. Come for a hockey tournament, skate on the canal, fish or water ski on Little lake, tour the water system on one of our tour boats and thrill to the view from our Liftlocks - the highest hydraulic lock system in the world. Young people move away for work but most return because Peterborough is home.

It's all right. I've been here for 25 years and let me tell you that trying to find a job here SUCKS! Lots of elderly people here who are honestly just to cheap. Good arts and culture community but crime and drugs are definitely on the rise. WAS lots of greenspace before the city decided to start carving them out to put in new subdivisions. As you can tell I'm quite sick of it and ready to move on. .any suggestions?

Good place to live if you don't have to work , very high unemployment

Peterborough has everything from a lively arts and culture scene to beautiful parks and waterways, world-class dining, great schools.. I mean Peterborough really has it all. I feel blessed to be able to live here and raise my family here.

Best place to live in Ontario, can't believe this site has it listed as #18!!

Peterborough is a beautiful city. It's a wonderful place to raise a family with alot of activities. There is a wonderful zoo that is free to visit with a great splash pad for the kids. The liftlocks are gorgeous and a great place for an afternoon picnic. Peterborough is full of fantastic athletic teams, hockey, football, baseball, lacross and so many more. There is a new hospital and a new YMCA. Peterborough is surrounded by beautiful lakes and forest. I must admit that there are not alot of jobs in Peterborough but the commute to Toronto is not so bad. I lived in Peterborough for over 10 years and after 7 years of living in Thornhill and Sudbury, I can't wait to move back later this year!

I was born and raised here, i'm now 50 years old, and just moved back here with my wife from Montreal, before that i was in toronto for 7 years, and i will tell you, there is no employment, and very high substance abuse, thats it, thats all

Peterborough is a great place to live if your female. Jobs are there for the females...other then that...don't bother.

Peterborough is AMAZING. I spent the summer there in 2009. I was away from my girlfriend and I didn't know anybody and I still miss it there :D The downtown is beautiful, the people are friendly, it's easy to navigate. The transit system sucks, but at least there is a transit system!

I heard peterborough is great place to live, does anyone have any comments about that?

Born and raised in Hamilton, on Gage Ave. S. Due to the steel factories there have been a high incidence of cancers, and I do blame them. My mother , pancreatic cancer, my friends son 18 yrs old died of cancer. The closer to the north end, the higher the cancer rates. Living on the escarpment is much cleaner. I live in Barrie now, been out of Hamilton since 1999, and when I visit family, I can smell Hamilton the closer I get. Disgusting

I've lived in hamilton my entire life, some areas are run down, and others are way over done. But for me its number one! The people here are unique and very diverse, walk the downtown core and u'll everthing from drunk bum fights to zebra print dressed woman looking for the zoo LMFAO! The night life is awesome the woman are super sexy! The hammer has been my home and I wouldn't change it for anything! I've walked to every corner of my fair city and never seen the same thing twice. Hamilton is definatly the best city in ontario to me even if its 37th on this list. I've been to all those other places and yes some were awesome, or better then here but the Hammer is the place to be!!

Lived in Toronto and now Bracebridge.....would move back to Hamilton in a heartbeat. People are awesome, lots of jobs compared to other cities, and rent is the best bang for the buck anywhere.

North Hamilton/Escarpment part is awesome! WATERFALL CAPITOL OF THE WORLD! Hamilton + surrounding area like Dundas and Ancaster. Can't beat those escarpment views! The city has neat pockets of shops aka streets that have certain shops fit for that block like the international block, ect. Last time I visited the Art Gallery and walked out it was stinky...so...I think the city is a tad bit stinky...and the beach is lined with power line towers...and if you're on top of the escarpment looking over the city you notice a brown haze from the steel plants and whatever other plants you have! So beware of you're paranoid about smog pollution.

hamilton can look very run down in areas and gorgeous in others.easy to find your way around. looking off the escarpment at night time is majestic. insurance is high, rent is cheap malls its ok

Hamilton is amazing. Be a tourist in this city or if you live there, tour it yourself. It is full of surprises... visit the waterfront, the brow, and check out some of it's museums. And the waterfall capital of the world.

Good city until you try and put insurance on your car!

no its not the best but it sure is pretty awesome

best city in ontario

Not to contradict or offend anyone here but I really do not understand all the fuss and am rather perplexed at the amount of negativity here against London. I'll admit that there are major issues that have not been addressed at all. The place can look pretty dull and unkempt but surely I can honestly say that this is not as bad of a HOLE as many have rumored would want be to think. The thing with downtown like all downtowns is that they will draw in weirdos and god knows what. Having previously lived in Guelph, we got our fair shares of drug dealing as well. But in spite of the negatives, there are positives too that I've been enlightened by such as a slower pace lifestyle, friendiness, spectacular music scene, great hockey city, lovely parks, and a splended university and student bubble. Should be switch 14 with Guelph, although that's just me. Altogether, London probably just needs a new and effective city council and boot this one to the curb as I am aware that it consists of a bunch of circus freaks.

The schools here are abysmal. My neighbourhood, which was a good place to be seven years ago, is slowly getting worse by the day, downtown's dirty and full of drug-dealers and don't even get me started on EOA.

Was at their ribfest about a month ago, Pretty decent quiet enough place. CONS: not a lot of jobs, (as is in many places), in the middle of nowhere, incompetent administration, winter snowsqualls. PROS: Quieter, slower-paced, friendly people, a spectacular university and many unique festivals/events. I understand that London has had a lot of challenges over the years too as far as the slums, drugs, poverty, crime that have been mentioned here. But it's really nothing unusual compared to what I've seen elsewhere and definitely by no means ghetto. Other places will have their fair share of these problems as they already do browsing through this site. Guess You're never going to find a perfect place that fits your mold completely. And yes, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if these crumbums, which I admittingly seen, have been accumulated from Woodstock/St. Thomas.

I agree that London is a great place for shopping, is fairly clean, lots of concerts and events, and good prices on homes. Unfortunately, it does have a lot of slums, drugs, crime, and poverty - must be the riff raff, pyschos, and criminals from St. Thomas and Woodstock.

I am going to study there in fanshew colllege....any comments or suggestion?...employment opportunities?

I have lived in London for 6 years. The downtown is dirty and ugly. There seems to be a lot of drug dealing going on. This is in every area of the city. I have lived downtown, west London, East London and Old South. I spend a lot of time a Masonville Mall. I enjoy Wortley Village but it is nothing world class. For sure not what they make it out to be. I live close to Wortley now. The best thing about London are the festivals. I also know first hand it is not as closed minded and conservative as people say it is. All in all...the city is not great. There is not really one area that does not have slum a part of it. A lot of poverty. I would never move here. I moved here to live with my boyfriend who is from London. I for sure do not think it is a tourist city...There is nothing here to see. Other cities have way better things. Transit is just awful. SOOOOOOOO BAD. It feels like a place you just get stuck in...or g to school in...

Been here for over 10 years and all it's done is go downhill. Very poor transit, high unemployment and a city council that is out to lunch. It just seems like the whole city is 20 years too late...

Has been truly revitalized in recent years - wonderful restaurants on Richmond and King street, the highest amount of shopping per capita in Canada, and the John Labatt Centre attracts some world-class performers! I lived here for 8 years and truly miss it

A nice city even if it's a bit Isolated. 2 hr drive to Toronto. Transit is a bit sporadic. Lots of shopping! Population hasn't changed much in YEARS! Much more economical living than the GTA. Various different income regions. Bonus: JLC! Lots of great shows! I like London a Lot! Highly recommended!

i think london is a great city to live in for many reasons but the top are it is a very clean city with just the right places go eat or do shoping the city is not spread out and has good clean streets with lots of trees and colour to look at when walking or driving.instead of the plain dull look alot of citys have it also has many great schools and learning centers to go do reserch what ever you want to learn london can teach it to you. there is many nice places to go spend a day from a concert , water sports to there health care and all the other stuff thay london has to offer.there are some areas that are not the best but every good city has the bad areas in it for crime and drugs but you just dont go there and you dont see and the police do a good job trying to take away thoes problem. so really i would say that london is a really good city to live in with out fear from crime or lack of work. so go for a vacation or school what ever london has it all for you

A nice but very provincial and slightly isolated city.

i agree london does rock

agree thumbs up

Moved here from Oakville a few years back. Doesn't quite compare to Oakville. The taxes are high, the tap water is garbage and the roads are confusing. On the positive side I like the nearby Farmers Market and the blues festival in Kitchener.

Waterloo nice clean city, everything that you need, good parks BUT expensive as hell and only going to get worse with new transit system. Local politicians are all tree huggers and will kill this city..hope we can move before taxes become the highest in Canada and Rim dies.

Classist growing city due to the "newveau riche" settling there. Still a university town with blue collar beginnings.

Kitchener is definitely on the decline in most areas despite the downtown revitilization experiment. My biggest beef is the citys' absolute refusal to maintain public spaces. Most of the main boulevards (e.g Homer Watson) are usually knee high with weeds that overwhelmingly outnumber grass. Couple this with the grub and cinch bug epidemic here and properties in general are looking like crap. City in general looks depressed.

Kitchener is a really great place to live, especially if you have kids. Many choices of schools. Lots of parks and activities going on all the time. It's a very friendly city.

water and property tax is too high.

Crime and poverty is much higher in Kitchener in comparison to Cambridge or Waterloo but by no means a ghetto. Still a good place to live and work continues to revitalize their downtown core to a more livable place.

Kitchener is a good place to live if you also take its twin, Waterloo, into consideration. Both cities work quite well together.

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Kitchener is a great city to live in especially if they are families. There lots of activitys for children and lots of stuff for the adults to. There hardly any crime around kitchener and everybody is friendly.

Grew up here. Thought it was the worst place ever due to teenage angst :). Moving back soon. One of the finest communities in south western Ontario.

I have now lived in Cambridge for I year and I love it. There's so much to do and close to home. My grandchildren now want to move here. I've been truly happy with my decision to relocate here in Cambridge, Ontario

Cambridge is the best place to call home, offering all you need in city conveniences with less smog, less crowding and more nature retreats - where river views, rolling hills, farmland and ravines contrast alongside modern shopping malls, trendy cafes, restaurants, art galleries, antiques and giftshops.Cambridge has the best of both worlds - old world historic architecture which is an interesting fusion of the character of an old England and small European town ambience. The libraries in Cambridge are wonderful and the arts is thriving. The long-time community theatre Little Galt Theatre continues to thrill the arts community and a much larger new theatre built on the riverbank of the Grand River opens in March 2013 a multi-million dollar joint investment by the Drayton Theatre and the Dunsfield Retirement Living groups and supported by government is expected to elevate the arts in Cambridge a couple of notches up. Easily accessible by land and air, Cambridge is only 45 minutes drive from Pearsons International Airport and an hour away from Toronto. ven closer to home, It is serviced by the Waterloo Regional Airport as well which runs direct flights to major Canadian airports and even to U.S. major cities like Chicago. Cambridge has it all. And it is a safe and clean city, with a dependable public transit bus system, excellent for students, good for familiy living and working professionals who may prefer to commute to work.

I have lived in Cambridge all my life, and I wll never leave. The city is great.. and unlike other remarks.. traffic is not a problem compared to other cities. Always a shop to go to, and parks galore. Movies are constantly being filmed here for our historic areas and money is spent wisely. The only downside in being in Cambridge, is having to deal with the Region of Waterloo.. as the "city of Kitchener-Waterloo", vote in favour of work in their area, completely neglecting Cambridge. Rapid Transit is a good example. Cambridge has the most potential for people needing a train, to Toronto, in the region.. and was very conservative and strategic on how many stops requested. Instead we help foot the bill with a bus driving us to a train.. further delaying our lives.

I have lived in Waterloo Region all my life and in Cambridge for the last 20 years. I do like Cambridge, in particular the small communities of Preston, Hespeler and Galt. It makes you feel like you live in really smaller communities. I live in Preston and enjoy the trails, the close walks to pubs, coffee shops, grocery shopping, and shopping for larger items. I do not like the fact that industrial areas are spread throughout and not located in one area (has to do with amalgamating the three towns in 1973). It also seems that Cambridge does not have any urban planners and all the money goes towards revitalizing downtown Galt (which no one goes to). Lots of people different people from different areas makes for some nice eating places.

Not too big, not too small. Has everything you could want at a price that is affordable.

Awesome up and coming city to live in. Moved here after finishing school in Waterloo. Cheapest of the tri-cities and has the nicest architecture. I am a quick commute to work in Guelph and I can make it to downtown Toronto in a little over an hour if I want to see a show. We're constantly getting new stores, new road improvements, and new industrial areas with lots of job prospects. This will be the place to be in the next 15 years.

Cambridge and the rest of the tri-cities is a good place to live and raise a family. Centrally located between London and Toronto with the 401 running through the centre of the city. Amazing architecture in Downtown Cambridge (Galt).

I lived in St Catharines for 3 years. It's a good city if you're a student or want to raise a family and have a job. If you don't have a job before moving to the area, chances are, you're in trouble. St. Cathraines and Windsor have high unemployment because they used to run off blue collar jobs like GM plants that are now shut down. The scenery is nice and the school's are ok but I would recommend living in the north end of the city towards the canal as it nicer, quieter and less slumy then the downtown/ Queenston St(East end) area. Its also a great city for students but it will likely be hard to find a job unless you are working in the health care field.

Sorry for the repeat, but I thought my first comment disappeared.

It bugs me that so many businesses shut down around 5 or 5:30, even many restaurants. Went to get Chinese food one evening at 6 and was told it was "too late" to order dinner! Even at the mall businesses closed early. How do people who work full time find time to get errands and shopping done?

I used to go every summer, but I get frustrated at how so many businesses close so early, even many of the restaurants. One time I went out for Chinese food at 6 pm and was told it was "too late" to have dinner! And even at the mall I went to, the doors were rolled down around 5 or 5:30. Must be hard for people who work to find time to do any shopping or errands.

I have lived in St. Catharines for the last 10 years or so and have always found the city has a small city feel. I'm not sure what streets the description are talking about. It has some older areas, some run down areas but otherwise is like any other city but smaller and seems to move a little slower. Currently live in an older area located centrally and am quite content with my house. For cross border shopping St. Catharines can not be beat as you are about 10 min from the border. Much nicer than Hamilton or Niagara Falls IMO.

St catharines is , in fact a gorgeous city and a wonderful place to live and raise kids. It boasts many beautiful houses, its very clean, and beautifully landscaped. There are many great schools in st ccatharines, a couple ranked in the top 10 academically in ontario. The people are friendly, crime rate is very low. A new state of the art hospital is being opened soon in St catharines. Housing costs are quite reasonable, stores are clean and well organized. I would take St catharines over Torontto or slummy burlington any day!

I've lived in St. Catharines twice and it always looks run down in my opinion. The north end is the nicest area and that's about it. Other areas have a lot of welfare looking type people, who look bummy, slum looking streets, rough looking people. Cars up on blocks in driveways....Sorry I just wish the people of St. Catharines had more pride. We're in Burlington now and although expensive, we are loving it.

Durham and Ajax Property tax is very high. Right now Looks like a mortgage, or rent. It is scary

I have lived in Ajax for 10 years and I my kids started school last year. I am very impressed with the amount care and attention my kids receive from the school and teachers. I give the school A+. The city itself is above average to average in any other sense. Crime is low camparing to Pickering or Oshawa or Toronto, people are nice. A very multiculture enviornment overall. City is clean and peaceful. That's exactly the kind of place to raise a family. I love it here

Not too small and not big. The city is minutes away from Toronto downtown and very reasonable homes. I just did find the downtown area too attractive

Best Soccer Club for kids in Ontario and 2nd Best Soccer Club in Canada lives in Ajax. My kids had a great time playing soccer and the City Halls pays a great deal of attention to kids physical education. Schools are great. Down site, taxes are too high

A fantastic place to live in....

A great City to live in. Only 20 minutes away from Toronto, yet very quiet and family oriented. Great Schools, shopping, restaurants all over town. You can find family owned and operated business to large corporations. Housing is affordable. Transit is a good as it can in any small towns. What I love is the lack of a big shopping mall with congested traffic. Streets are wide enough and there are hardly any traffic issues. people are friendly and you can easily get along with your neighbors. Lots of parts, and green areas. Downside....too close to Oshawa.....

I think those who comment on "too many Asian"s and Immigrants" need to remember that THEIR ancestors were immigrant. Unless you are First Nations, then who are they to speak about Immigrants?Canada is a country not Native to or exclusive to White People. I have a friend in Markham who tells me it is a great place to live!

I live in west markham near 404. Close to toronto and commute is very convenient into toronto. Many wealthy chinese immigrants moving in. Most people here have good paying white collar jobs in the service and finance industry or entrepreneurs. Asian cuisine is all over can grab many great meals for 6 or 7 bucks. Excellent schools. All of my neighbors are mostly chinese and very friendly. No trouble makers. Very safe - car insurance and home insurance is very cheap. Property taxes are not too high or low - mid range. Will gladly stay until kids are finished elementary & high school.

It is very polite, clean city having natural greenery. I like to live here because it has lot of good schools.

I agree with you. I am S.Asian (Indian) but I moved here from Chicago area. It seems that for an asian the only place where one could go is where there is already an established community as small communities discriminate. There was racial discrimination in Ottawa and Quebec and in many other small communities. I too dont feel like I left India when I am in Markham.

Luckily the Canadian gov is putting a stop to the crazy immigration. I think Stephen Harper walked through Toronto and forgot he was in Canada. LOL

Totally agree. I have lived in Richmond Hill and in 20 years I think all of Asia has moved here-no offence but I don't feel like I am in my own country-that's all I mean by that. You start to lose your own identity I think when you are bombarded by other nationalities. As I said before no offence I do shop in the Asian markets and love everything they have to offer but I need to leave Richmond Hill and find where I belong again. Since we are neighbors to Markham it's all the same thing.

markham is a congested mini asia

Suburban tedium.

Pros. Mississauga is not a bad place to live. Its a great place to raise children with a good number of solid schools to choose from, many programs and activities available for children, fairly low crime rate in comparison to other places its size and population, low property tax, It has arguably the best hospitals out of all suburbs in Ontario, very easy to commute to and from, and unlike Brampton the homes in Mississauga are actually worth something! Cons. Mississauga is boring and lacks in night life, It also lacks in character, and has minimal boutiques. The Transit here doesn't suck when comparing Mississauga to other suburbs but it does fall in comparison to Toronto.

good schools bad transit

Mississauga really, really, really sucks.

I agree with above.... If you can't afford a car, the city of Mississauga is horrible... Public transit takes way too long to get anywhere. As far as pollution and crime goes, I would say its very low... I have lived here my whole life and have had no problems.

WOW you people have no clue what the best city in canada means,you cant be serious.

missisauga too congested, too much crime, and if you don't have a car everything takes forever to get too.

best city ever

except for the polution. Surrounded on all sides by relentless commuters and transport - it is not a good place to live from a health standpoint. I moved to Barrie to save my son from asthma and it disappeared inside six months!

the best city in the world hands down! The best place to raise a family!

This is amazing to me!! I have been in Barrie for 3 1/2 years and knew we made a mistake the first year! We have been house hunting in Oakville. We can't wait to sell and move. The only plus living in Barrie is being able to ski in the winter and the water front in the summer. City is horribly run! Taxes are too high for services provided. SCDSB is pathetic a few good teachers who actually care and are in teaching for the right reasons. Our 3 children have had good expriences with their teachers but some of the administrative staff encountered are deplorable in their attitude and professionalism or there lack of. I am so disappointed. Now that I have expressed my thoughts and feelings about Barrie and our reasons for wanting to leave to friends , I have been shocked to find the the general feeling is mutual! Barrie is a very depressing place to live....to visit for winter fun or summer events is all I would consider.

I am shocked by all these negative comments. Although I realize that Barrie has some major issue that need addressed, there are a great deal of things that make Barrie a beautiful place to live. I moved here with my family in the early 90's and have been here in Barrie ever since. (I left shortly 2 years ago in an attempt to return to the cit of Toronto, but found that I did not like the hectic lifestyle anymore). Barrie has a beautiful waterfront, that makes living here with a family enjoyable. The downtown core is a wonderful place to visit, though I do agree there are too many bars and nightclubs, things have improved a great deal in the last few years. This can be a plus for the younger crowd looking to socialize in the evenings. Barrie has some great resources for parents, and young families. The lack of 'higher paying' jobs is a problem, but it is also the main focus of city chancellors on a regular basis. As for the Transit, it may be shocking to discover that 'Barrie Transit' is not actually run by the City of Barrie, something that should probably be considered to improve upon this service and keep pace with this fast growing environment. I will agree with many of the complaints there, but I also know the other-side of the story. Barrie transit has a very small budget, and the drivers themselves are the lowest paid (per capita)in Ontario and deserve some credit because though the service sucks, the people are great. Barrie is friendly, it is relatively clean, and improvements are being made to the main areas everyday. The roads are an issue but remember that this city is growing far faster than anyone ever thought it would. The landscape and environment are what make Barrie 'home' and truthfully make it worth the issues. I can't speak about taxes as I know nothing about that issue. I do know that the cost of purchasing a home here is far less than that of other areas.

Property taxes are way too high for the lack of services offered. I grew up in Toronto and lived in Burlington (loved Burlington) prior to moving to Barrie. Thought Barrie would be nice place to raise a family. Wrong...we are one of the lucky ones that have decent (not retail) jobs within an hour of the city. So tired of looking at the massive retail centres opening up. Contemplating a move to Ottawa within the year as the Simcoe School Board is crap when comes to providing services (basically no service) esp for children with LD's. We plan to move in the near future in order to provide our children with a quality education while providing them with access to culture/theatre and the safety that other cities in Ontario can provide. Although I will miss the short drive to Collingwood or Georgian Bay to enjoy our snowboarding and sailing in the summer. That was a perk of living in Barrie.

Wow, how desperate can one appear who compares Barrie with third world countries, in an attempt to make Barrie’s current City leadership seem not so bad? Mentioning about no jobs, higher taxes and the crime in Barrie doesn’t appear to help his claim ether. I agree Barrie could be a great place to live but first it requires good honest leadership from a City who doesn’t turn its back on corruption and actually listens to tax payers concerns. Other cities in Ontario grew from former apple orchards, you know as Mississauga today, without 1/100th of the problems the City of Barrie appears to have. Lastly it may be easier to clean house at the City of Barrie and Barrie Transit rather than asking the people who are unhappy with the way things are run in Barrie to leave. I fear more than three quarter of the population of Barrie would be gone , not leaving much of a City to run. Maybe that’s all the current leadership can handle in the first place ?

Barrie has had its challenges over the last number of years as infrastructure could not keep up with increasing population. It has had an identity crisis as it has been facing the challenges of rapidly moving from a small town community to being designated as one of Central Ontario's urban growth areas. Barrie has many features that make it a great place to live and raise a family and residents should take pride in this City. It is a City with lots of potential to do great things over the next few years with strong City Leadership. Cry me the blues about higher taxes, not finding a job, not liking the downtown, crime etc.... Hey count your blessings you ever live outside of Canada/North America in a third world country....try it see how it sits with you then comment back about not being grateful for living in Canada period! For those who think Barrie stinks, leave we don't need people like you because you are part of the problem. What makes anything great starts with you, be the change not the obstacle.

Being a former resident from Mississauga , the first thing I noticed was the huge increase in taxes I was paying in my Barrie home.Further note# not only was I paying more but the services are quite a bit less.In 2011, I contacted the mayor about some very serious issues about a company hired by the City of Barrie. Unlike my prior Mayor in Mississauga who actually answers tax payers concern / questions,I was in complete shock how the Barrie Mayor chose to ignore taxpayers and ignore the destructive activities taking place by a company hired by the City of Barrie.Quite a culture shock to me and made me wonder how the people of Barrie can continue to pay the high wage of the Mayor position to a person who appears to have the say and do nothing attitude for any issues he is confronted about. Barrie could be a great place once some major house cleaning in City Hall and Transit where done.Maybe the Mississauga Mayor could show them how it is done and keep taxes in check. Otherwise I would suggest looking at other Cities to raise your family in ,who have good honest leadership and care about tax payers concerns.

Lived in Barrie 15 years, looking to leave. It's become nothing but a commuter town with only retail jobs; a transit system that can only be described as hideous and a dumpy downtown that needed an overhaul 20 years ago (and by overhaul I don't mean simply torching buildings at the five points then setting up fry shacks on the remaining lots). The cost of living is on par with Toronto without any of the amenities you should be able to access for such a high price. Not the worst place to live in the world, but not the quaint little city it was 10 years ago. Keep looking for somewhere better.

Barrie, no jobs, no transit, no hope.... Strip joints all over the place. Bars every few blocks. Fight night is almost everynight downtown! The inmates from the super jail in Penetang get a bus ride to Barrie. They never leave, the bus drops them off downrown, then they make their way to a) The liquor store b) the methedone clinic or c) the soup kitchen. Barrie the place to be?

I moved to Barrie in 1978 from Hamilton. Barrie was an amazing place. Friendly people, beautiful scenery. Moved to Parry Sound in 1982 then back to Barrie in 1996 so my son could skate at Mariposa. That was a good thing! Wow though, what a change. In larger cities crime is condensed in one area...and you stay away. Barrie is smaller...so crime is all over, its hard to stay away. Barrie has become a bedroom town. Live here, work in Toronto. I'm not liking it much anymore. My 5 grandchildren are here though so I am torn. Still looking!!

i have lived here for 10yrs and the only reason i stayed is so my son could keep his friends. This city is a joke..full of all the people that couldnt afford a house anywhere else..thanks to all the builders offering rent to own deals, then the dumb dumbs realize that they dont qualify for a mortgage,,and you gotta love a place that almost every house..people sit and drink in their garage.. Going to the Barrie bus terminal is more like going to the Baririe Circus! a lot of low lifes..god forbid if your teen meets the wrong crowd..hello crack!!! I have never met so many racist rednecks..and whom ever planned the zoning must be clueless..what an inconvienient town to get around. I was sucked in by the waterfront and the summer events..but when you live here and every other person invade your city every weekend...its not fun....so that is my rant..i would also love to mention our Drunk mayors that wobble all over town being rude and discusting...with their do you know who i am crap...Barrie Police...that is funny all the cops that couldnt make it through the interviews in any respectable town.

Hey I am shocked there are no comments about Barrie and I am not from there. Having been there for the first time 28 years ago I have seen some big changes and as for the layout of the city-it is very lovely the downtown needs to get rid of a few taverns I think but Barrie is really becoming a lovely city. It kind of reminds me of Kingston but Barrie too will be congested very shortly so unfortunately it is not my first choice as all the Toronto garbage will be heading there way if you know what I mean. The police station is located at the Bus Terminal so I believe there is already bad going through there. The look of the city is nice but I am not feeling the same personalities as in the Ottawa Valley.

Whoever said best city ever needs to get out more often !!!! my goodness you need to get out and see other places then you can tell me that its the best city ever ...

lived here for 1 year and it was awful!!! sooo boring!! Also if you do not speak french good luck finding a job and people to meet. The french are very rude and look down on you if you do not speak it. No jobs, no where good to shop, boring do not move here if you are 19-30

Best city ever.

On the first Sunday in June of each year, Timmins holds a Multicultural Festival at the McIntyre Community Building. It reflects the unique ethnic diversity of the people in Timmins. You can experience the excitement of different cultures, savour the cuisine and the ethnic costumes. The festival brings together many different cultural groups from within the City. Italian, Croatian, Polish, German, Ukrainian, Scottish, English, French, Irish, Austrian, Finnish, Chinese, Filipino, and Native Cultures as well as others to join together and celebrate the diversity of the community. There are local groups who perform traditional music and dances; a parade displaying the different colourful ethnic costumes; and an abundance of food and ethnic art demonstrations. There are several ethnic clubs in the area representing the various multicultural groups in Timmins, most notably; the French Le Centre Culturel La Ronde, the Italian Porcupine Dante Club, the Croatian Society, the Polish White Eagle Hall, the Irish Canadian Club, the German Culture Club, the Chinese Club, the Ojibway & Cree Cultural Centre, the Timmins Multicultural Society as well as others. Timmins is also a staging point for wilderness outfitters in the district that offer northern wilderness experiences, such as fishing trips, eco-adventures and Arctic excursions. There's a boat launch located just south of the Mattagami River bridge off Algonquin Blvd which provides both summer and winter access to that main water course. Kettle Lakes Provincial Park, situated just east of the city centre is dotted with 22 deep, spring-fed kettle lakes which are reachable by trails and roads. Popular lakes in the area include Gillies Lake, Papakomeka Lake, McArthur Lake, Bigwater Lake and Hersey Lake. Some of the parks activities in summer include swimming, camping (day and overnight), paddling and fishing. In the winter the park offers cross-country skiing and snowshoe trails.

Some of the main tourist attractions within the city include: the Shania Twain Centre, Timmins Underground Gold Mine Tour, The Timmins Museum and National Exhibition Centre, Cedar Meadows Wilderness Tours, Kamiskotia Snow Resort, Porcupine Ski Runners Cross-Country Trails and Chalet, Hollinger Golf Club, Spruce Needles Golf Club, the Sandy Falls Golf Club, the McIntyre Community Building and the Timmins Snowmobile Club.[6] Snowmobiling impacts the Timmins economy as tourists from all over North America travel to explore area trails. Hollinger Park is one of the city's main recreational spaces. The park is divided in two sections, the north side being the public park area, with the south side having a regulation sized baseball diamond and two soccer fields for more organized outdoor recreational endeavours. The baseball park has been home to the Timmins Men's Baseball League since 1985. Former Timmins resident Shania Twain played a concert at Hollinger Park on July 1, 1999. An estimated 22,000 people attended the outdoor concert.

A lot of sports to ex: hockey,soccer, and baseball

Traffic nightmare in North York! It's changed so much since the 1980s, for the worse! Overrun with asians. The North York YMCA is busting at the seams. It used to be a nice place. Where did all these people come from? The North York IKEA store is HORRIBLE...always packed with pushy peasants. North York is not nice anymore.

Being a former resident from Mississauga , the first thing I noticed was the huge increase in taxes I was paying in my Barrie home.Further note# not only was I paying more but the services are quite a bit less.In 2011, I contacted the mayor about some very serious issues about a company hired by the City of Barrie. Unlike my prior Mayor in Mississauga who actually answers tax payers concern / questions,I was in complete shock how the Barrie Mayor chose to ignore taxpayers and ignore the destructive activities taking place by a company hired by the City of Barrie.Quite a culture shock to me and made me wonder how the people of Barrie can continue to pay the high wage of the Mayor position to a person who appears to have the say and do nothing attitude for any issues he is confronted about. Barrie could be a great place once some major house cleaning in City Hall and Transit where done.Maybe the Mississauga Mayor could show them how it is done and keep taxes in check. Otherwise I would suggest looking at other Cities to raise your family in ,who have good honest leadership and care about tax payers concerns.

Love to see all the cultures united

Great area if you could afford it!!

nice people

Pickering the ultimate Bedroom Community. Truly... that is all you get, a place sleep. There is a terrible selection of places to go and things to do. Restaurants are awful (with a very few exceptions). As mentioned by others Taxes are laughably high...but that's because there is no business in Pickering to pick up the slack, so it is piled on the residents. All of Durham has an awful tax structure. There are pockets of Pickering that are nice...but it's not a community...it's just a place to sleep.

I have lived in south Pickering, close to the Petticoat Creek conservation area for 10 years. This is a wonderful neighborhood and totally family oriented. I usually don't lock my car and have forgotten to lock my house doors on numerous occasions. Where is the crime.I have lived in some of the best places in the GTA and nothing compares to where I live now. I don't like the fact that there is a nuclear plant in my back yard, but really if something happens,it happens. There is a beautiful unpopulated beach area that is never overcrowded and is a perfect place to have picnics and family fun. There are more popular beach areas where you don't see the nuke plant but none in the GTA are as peaceful. I have a beautiful home that never appreciates because ??. Please folks don't knock this wonderful gem in the GTA.

Pros. In the Pickering Ajax area you can find a decent size property for a good price, and nice parks. Cons. Lacks a good hospital, Property tax is very high in this area, don't ask why when the nuclear power plant is right there. Not a fan of this area!!!!!

I've lived in Newmarket for 7 years now. I had to go to the hospital for an operation just 2 years in and the people with whom I had to deal were very, very decent. I'm mainly sad they are still building when there is just simply not much more land to appreciate. I'm not a shopper, but the Upper Canada Mall makes it very easy. The trick is to find a house with a decent back yard and you're all set.

Pros. Newmarket is quite, not too much traffic, properties are affordable and also selling like hot cakes. Cons. Newmarket is too far a commute from the city, there is nothing to do there and no night life, and I'm not sure about the quality of the hospital out there.

The original townsfolk of Richmond Hill are all hiding out in one place or at least 10 years ago at a couple of the existing pubs. They pretend to be friendly but hate newcomers especially the snotty nosed irish and scottish community. Too many people moving in too fast. Richmond Hill is only a drive thru suburb-no sense of community for anyone not from there. Lots to do but boring-no scenery ooh Lake Wilcox!!! They even managed to ruin its serenity with all those homes they built.

We moved from TO about 26 back, it was pure paradise on the earth, now well we all know what happened after 2000, From very mixed neighbourhood it became one sided /lop sided neighbourhood, some of the habits, narrow mindedness and some non sense, has become very annoying, over all new comers are peace loving, happy to call city hall, even when the neighbour is painting the house. I find new comers very jealous, and basically no skills for adding value to the property, not like the old neighbours go getter to add value to their place plus help you out to add beauty to your place. So far there is food on table, place to sleep may be 10 in a room, and gambling at night, rolling of the dice until morning hours, life is good.

lots of chinese

An unfair comment the one about the bridge. The one about the land division, maybe. I wonder where you people live? Land is expensive in Ontario. It must be made available somewhere, to the East, Mississauga is filled up. To the South, Oakville is too expensive. Where do you propose to build? I came in 11 years ago, running from an over-build Mississauga. All 6 grand children are from Milton. Kelso is a great choice to spend a picnic day and a day at the beach. The greenbelt is enjoyed by all. It still make sense not even the postage stamp lots are accessible to all. Milton is a great town to live and form and raise a family. Our hospital has great service. There are jobs. And there is petty crimes too...Yes we are a city in the making. The only draw-back is the lack of common sense for the new housing as it has the un-needed flouride in the water. Our farmers bring their goods to the market on Main street every weekend from May to October. We have organic farms. We also have Sprinridge for a morning breakfast and if you can afford one of their pies - they are great. We have a sport centre with salt water, and if the major doesn't kill the small merchant by bringing into town all the american giants, we can enjoy walking downtown main street and seat at one of their restaurants. As you can see you couldn't find a better town in Ontario. M.Pagani

build a bridge and get over it !!

I was raised just outside of Milton in Hornby and cannot believe how much greenbelt has been wasted on big houses on small postage stamp lots. Not only that we never had any crime, but now it awful. What a waste of good land......Soon people will where all the farm land went......Your living on it...

My dad lives here

Is it good for people who want to retire there?

How are Windsor and Hamilton in the top 10 and Peterborough #18??? Who the heck put this list together?? I think it must be in reverse order!

Windsor sucks!!!! Live there for al most a year...nothing to do....ugly...boring, all they do is go to the mall (the only one they have) and make babies, all you see in teenagers with babies, because? They have nothing else to do, sucks!

Windsor is awesome as long as you stay out of certain areas (west side) too many rivalries with detroiters

i agree the mayor sucks here!! downtown sucks unless you want a shawarma because these restayrants are so abundent that you can find them 2-3 on one street even right next door to each other on oullette . Eddie is the king of shawatmas!!!

Windsor is a fun city with lots of creative people but it's more of a creative "underground." Most people who live here want others to think it's a crappy place to live so we the population doesn't explode. Live here a year and you won't leave.

And millionaires don't live here lol. Windsor has people of various cultures, ethicities, religions, and yes financial means but no millionaires lol.

Actually Windsor is a great place to live! We're close to Detroit for shopping/sports. We have good concerts/events. Low crime. Yeah employment sucks but I think that's the same in most of Canada

Great place loads of millionaires live there. Lot's of new stuff being built in the next few months.

LOL Yah right, No Work Here!

Fantastic lakes, zero traffic congestion. University and college town. Great place to raise children. Low crime rate. I've often heard that the city isn't appreciated until people move away. Usually they can't wait to come back.

great scenery/outdoors. Great city for family and for children. High taxes for a city this size. No good paying jobs for young people. Most kids must leave North Bayto find decent job regardless of education

Lived here off and on for over 50 years. No rat race here. Nice scenery especially during the fall colours. Lots of lakes within the city.

Very pretty place.

Municipal politicians have finally seen the light...no longer chasing away employers in favor of Gambling...cloud of negativity over this community....better to seek other city to live!

I don't understand the complaints about Niagara Falls. It's a beautiful place to live. It's very low-crime, it's fun, it has lots of parks, beautiful places, things to do on Clifton Hill. Restaurants. Yes it's expensive at some of the restaurants but the food in the grocery stores are average prices like in Toronto. The only rip off store is Commisos it's awful a total rip off. Cakes you buy at Zehrs that are considered expensive at $14 are $22 at Commisos. Hope that greedy store goes out of business soon. But as for other things, Niagara Falls is a great place to live.

I stay there every year for a few weeks. I think grocery prices are really high. Winter is too cold, summer is too humid and hot. I don't like the roads and how the traffic lights work. I am used to having dedicated left-turn lanes, where you don't have to wait for oncoming traffic to pass by before turning left. Also, how come hardly anyone has a nicely landscaped yard? Nothing but a lawn, a tree or two and a couple of shrubs in most yards.

Great strip clubs though

I grew up in Niagara Falls and lived there for 24 years. There are few decent paying jobs, not many places for local people to escape from the tourists without going to St.Catharines or elsewhere. The local government doesn't care about creating a sustainable community for residents so long as money keeps rolling in from tourism. The roads are in a ridiculous state of disrepair, the services for residents are minimal, the downtown area is littered with shady bars and run down shops. I would never recommend moving here.

Gorgeous suburb of Ottawa-great location to live Close to the City

There are many small villages on the outskirts of Collingwood which have housing that is more affordible. You can still take advantage of the recreation and the scenic beauty that Collingwood offers and it's affordable. Collingwood is a really friendly town and I'm very grateful to live close by to this city.

Previous poster is right. NO JOBS! One bus an hour! NO PUBLIC TRANSIT BETWEEN COLLINGWOOD AND BLUE MOUNTAIN!! So you have to pay double for rent and live near the mountain if you want a job here and don't drive. Rediculous energy bills even if you dont use the tv, have no internet, use candles at night, unplug everything before bed, and don't use the electric heaters. $150 for minimal usage of electricity and water. (offpeak usage and 600sqft home). Most the shops are independent and hardly hire. Maybe 1 person a season. You're lucky to get hired at any big box store. They're building new condos/townhouses/homes but there's no jobs for families and working teenagers who are moving in. Maybe trying to suck in the retirees? I base this on my recent horrible experience living there for the winter. Spent my months looking for a job, and finally got one a few weeks before I had to move. Moved out almost on the edge of homelessness. Bf had to pay for everything. This town is cursed.

NO JOBS EXPENSIVE TO LIVE NO TRANSIT ALL TOURISM

I LIVE HERE

Very nice city, the schools are nice, very safe

The traffic is becoming an issue. The last ten times I've been there day and night, there have been traffic jams on the highway, and there are condos popping up like crazy.

Whitby is the place to be in all of the GTA. Nice people, low crime rate, no long line ups in grocery or department stores, beautiful scenery, the lake right down the street, and abosolutely clean. Just moved in the area from the west Toronto and it's like a breath of fresh air....literally.

No traffic jams, clean, family oriented with great frech immersion schools like Sinclair and Captain Michael V. North Whitby of course and Brooklin.

Uh....have you checked the crime stats lately on macleans or statistics Canada? One of the highest in Canada!!!!

Great place to live! With the new wayne gretzky sports centre and the two new bars to expand the nightlife it is full of activities! Not to mention the best blooming city.

Brantford has really improved over the last decade, I moved away to Toronto back in 2001 & have recently returned with my husband and 2 small children...it is WAY better than TO for raising a family & a lot of consideration should be given to the work being done in the downtown core!

it's NOT HORRIBLE. everyone who lives there will say it is, but it's mostly just boring and somewhat ugly, with a screwed up street-grid.

Horrible place to live, once downtown is fixed up, and employment grows, then it could be worthy.

Etobicoke is a backwater...filled with mean, cheap, old world Euro-trash people who have nothing better to do than watch out their windows at you and report to the City complaint department. Don't move here unless you want neighbours from hell. Boring and dull suburb of Toronto . The only nice area is Col. Sam Smith Park by the lake.

i have lived in etobicoke for all my life.Its a nice city but its more of a city for work,not to live and raise a family.

Etobicoke is not the nicest place to live any longer. The roads are terrible full of pot holes. Drive along Scarlett Road or Islington Avenue and you wil know what I mean. There are no shops in the Eglinton Ave W area between Scarlett Road and Martin Grove that are worth going to. Anything to the immediate east, west, north are non-existent. You have to drive south to Bloor and walk to see anything ...or drive out of town towards Mississauga and Oakville.

Mimico is a bubbling cultural centre. I love it as an alternative to TO.

Woodbridge is built by Italians for Italians, no different than Browntown or Oakville. The streets are given Italian names and the businesses also operate in Italian....if you like Italians and love Italian food, then look no further.. Italians have some of the nicest homes anywhere in the world and Woodbridge is certainly no exception and the welfare rate amongst Italian is almost non-existent in the world... Beat that ya' MangiaCakes!!! Oh and by the way, the pizz we eat in North America is Italian and nothing else!!!

it is good from overall but italain are not good . u should always stay your self far from there.

Italians, fast cars, shopping, and gelato. Good place if you like being stared at. It does have all the discount outlets, so it's great for that. But beware at night, that's when the ginos and fast cars come out. You might want to close your windows, the music blasting is horrible! And keep your kids off the roads. They'll get ran over.

Woodbridge is nice. Its close to the Toronto, nice houses, good mall, and Wonderland. The problem with Woodbridge is it lacks a good hospital with in a decent proximity, Its a little bias, and the crime rate is questionable.

Great town!

Overpopulated. I love square one, though.

No longer a good place to live. Over populated, lots of litter on streets, outdated mayor, total congestion. Not happy living here,too bad it used to be a great city.

I live in mississauga. the population is 700,000 estimated

Its not really though, is it?

great place to live

Great little city - I have lived in North Oshawa for just short of 2 years now. Although its the burbs, I I am walking distance from all the amenities we need - groceries, shopping, banking, child care centre, library, Legend's Centre, dentist, DRT transit and a short drive/bus ride to church, doctor's etc! Homes are very reasonably priced but property taxes are high!

City dynamic is changing as well. GM still important but increasingly economy is driven by health care and education (3 post-secondary institutions: University of Ontario Institute of Technology / Trent University campus / Durham College). Downtown core traffic is bad. Public library is very good, and city has its own little arts scene, and Lakeview Park beats anything Toronto has with the exception of the Island itself. Housing is affordable, there is public transit to Toronto for commuters. Depending on your views on nuclear energy, there are two generating stations nearby - one in Pickering, and the other to the east in Darlington = highly paid jobs. Downtown is still shabby, never having fully recovered from the black hole that is the Oshawa Centre mall, but on the other hand, a lot of its architectural heritage is intact, and now the University has taken over the old, recently renovated Regent Theatre as a lecture hall, so there are signs of rejuvenation. Skiing not far away to the north. Ontario's best-kept secret. The much-maligned 'Shwa has a lot more going for it than most people think.

Traffic is horrible. Everywhere you look there are cops trying to hand out tickets. Very little parking, usually have to pay. Don't come here if you're one of those green people. It is illegal to ride your bike on the street. Only some sidewalks you may ride.

Love it, everyone is nice, lots of amenities, and It's clean. We've lived here for a few years now, and glad we bought here.

Lived here for over 5 years and it's a nice place to live. I particulary love North Oshawa because of all of the amnenities near by and NO TRAFFIC! The neighbours are nice and new schools coming to the area. The only downfall is that there is no express lanes communiting from 407 to 401 in Oshawa. I would lovwe to be able to reach 401 without going through the town of Oshawa to cut time.

great place to live. nice environment and people. great new future development.

It feels like you live in Hong Kong.

Best town in all of Ontario!

No public transport? Hell! Buy a Honda, they build them there and you'd be contributing to the local economy!

come here to die,boring as heck,no public transport.

I think it's the best place to live even though I don't live there I still think its the best place to live and raise your kids

its a good place as long as you dont hang with stupid people, Great place to raise your children.

Way too many small minded people. Its a city with a late 50s outlook. A great waterfront and a good university though. Nice place to visit in the summer- then leave.

I've lived in Brampton for most of my life. The drivers are terrible, crime is increasing (which i know comes with population growth) Jobs pay minimum wage and aren't willing to train. People are becoming more rude and unaware that there are people around them that they should be minding. The transportation is terrible (it was taking me just as long from North Peel area to Sheridan college via bus as the students that were coming from Toronto) I used to take pride in this city- but now, I can only think positive of the few nice people I do meet, because they are by far the nicest.

Sure, it's a litle boring and very suburban, but it is a nice place to live. Nice green spaces, close to Toronto, and the countryside. I guess if your racist, it might not be a good fit for you. Personally I like the diversity. I don't know why people keep saying low property value, my house is worth a lot. So our my neighbors and it only seems to take a day or two to sell one. Oh, nobody walks anywhere. That's a bit of a downside, especially after living in large city's where you don't need a car to go 50 meters down the street.

Brampton is a great place to live! It is not even one bit like India! Very nice houses in some areas. Also love downtown!

I have lived in Brampton for 37 years and the city has grown and changed big time. Not in a good way, there are still a few pockets of nice neighborhoods but few and very far in between. Even if you manage to find a nice street you still must shop at bramalea city center (trying to upscale) still a nasty mess. Immigrants (Indian) are a big part of the downfall of Brampton and if you can't see that now wait 5 years.

Brampton sucks!! ****ty built houses, low property value, and crappy commute. The only reason most people buy in Brampton is because of the price!

Brampton sucks. There is nothing great about it. I have been living in Brampton for all my life, and now that im older, I have been trying to search for a job here for almost 7 months. I call this city brown town

There may a lot of indians in this area but take my word for it, they are the nicest people in the GTA. As for the city itself try to live any where south of bovaird. The North is just filled with houses, makes you feel suburbish. The south is nice. love Brampton

i find brampton to be a nice place to live. i was born here and lived here till i was 8 months old. my parents decided it was cheaper to move to toronto due to lower taxes. i'm happily married with 2 young children and am looking to move back to Brampton, simply cause the housing is much more affordable up there. my wife lived in scarborough her whole life and we currently reside in Etobicoke. about the whole "india" thing, sure they do have a large "india" like population up there, but its like that almost everywhere now, i think milton is the only untouched area in that sense. i have family that lives in brampton and they love it!

its all cookie cutter houses unless you live in the older downtown part. Downtown is nice compared to all the houses they keep building north of bovaird. cheap houses up there.

YEAH!!!!! What ever happened to Merry Christmas ?Now it's seasons greetings!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice Folk? Comming from the only person on the site who leaves a comment with the F word and racist remark and who uses the world folk? (Give you one guess)

why would anyone want to live in india(Brampton) wow you people saying brampton is a beautiful place to live must have moved from the middle east.Now you have food,jobs,houses. I find just about everyone here is so f---ing pushy and dont care for anyone else but themselves just like back home for them i guess. Try to explain to me why all the nice folk are move out of brampton? hhmmmm i wonder (give you one guess) begins with the letter P

definatly different from any other city on here

you're an idiot ^ Brampton is a beautiful place to live. Every city has some communities where a majorty of one culture may live in.

(middle east)

its in the middle of nowhere

Ive lived in Woodstock all my llife and Im actually ashamed of that fact! While its true that we have access to many better citiies around us in relively close driving distance and great farms all around, having said that living here still sucks. The only good thing is Picttock conservation area but even with that the water is SO poluted. I can't even begin to tell you the CRAP Ive put up with living here. Hospital sucks even the new one as they are not trained properly to deal with rare deseases like mine..and a year ago they sent me home and I nearly died. Schools get a low rating here too..exept for Algonqin which is a good school but the parents are very snotty. Stand outside and wait for your kid and if your not rich..forget getting talked to. We have no mall now for over ten years..just strip malls and for a small city there is alot of drugs fires set and in my life time we've had 7 murders. Do yourself a favor and dont move here. even though I have bad health im still trying to make my escape! Oh and the "workers" here arw the bitchiest you will ever meet. My ex assaulted me and was violent and they STILL told me i had to try to get child support from a rapist. Who cares about my son's or my safetly as long as they squeeze every cent for thier Gov't parties and living high on the hog. I even got the MPP involved and they couldn't even talk sence into them. Because of them I can' t get ODSP even though i have a cronic illness and documentation to suport it. So im forced to try to work sick. Never live here.

Seriously?!?!?! Not unless you feel like going back in time about 2 decades. I lived there for a year, would Never return!

Real estate is BRUTAL in Woodstock right now. You can buy buy buy, but good luck selling.

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Little nice pockets are getting smaller and smaller.

Scarborough is the safest most wonderful area in Canada!

guildwood parkway is a nice area. great park and schools

For those of you that don't think Scarborough is nice...check out the Scarborough Bluffs, Cedarbrae Blvd, St.Andrew's, Bellamy and Lawrence area, Pegasus Trail, etc etc...amazing homes just beautiful.

Lived in Scarborough all my life, the property is VERY undervalued in comparison to the rest of the city so you can still snap up some really good housing deals. Scarborough has a bad rep for no reason, which is good because it has kept the house prices low! I think it is the city's best kept secrets, it is very multicultural, great mom and pop ethnic restaurants and close to downtown. Scarborough is showing its age though, strip malls from the 60's and 70's look gross and the schools and transit has not kept up with the growth. Crime rate is in line with the rest of the city, despite what others think Scarborough acutally DOES NOT have a higher crime rate, just check the local police statistics if you don't believe it. Overall a great place to raise kids, affordable property taxes and you will not waste half your life commuting to work in downtown Toronto!! But please shhhhh....don't let anyone else know, house prices will skyrocket!!!

Scarborough is massive so just because you live in one pocket of Scarborough does not mean you should generalize for the entire Scarborough area, there's bad pockets any where you go in the GTA. Scarborough has the most parks and recreation in all of the GTA and it has a lot of things to do. i am proud of living in Scarborough! and would recommend it to anyone.

scarbough is full of crime, drugs, and people walk with their heads down in fear of getting robbed or shot, it's just not a good place to feel safe in, and on top of that the envionment too much factories and isn't very friendly. I used to live there years ago so i know

scarbouroug sucks

Crime rate higher in both these places Markham & Scarborough

Toronto used to be a wonderful city. Now, it is overpopulated with so many major issues! Traffic is horrendous, housing prices are insane and the TTC needs huge improvement. However, Toronto has it all...shopping, stuff to do, museums, galleries, great restaurants. The divide between rich and poor is widening all the time, which is sad. City Hall needs to get it's act together and fix some of the issues! Public community centers are not taken care of very well.

Toronto The Beautiful why because it's the melting pot of the World everyone welcome no exclusions. I love Toronto. I've lived in Hick-Tit Ontario, and Smellville Ontario and I am sure there are many other wily places in Ontario too choose. Just stay where you are if you're living to TO you'll be better off hands down. Oh Toronto I miss you.

I am not sure why Toronto is the target of all Canadian criticism. It is a city of neighbourhoods. wonderful diversity of ethnicity, food, culture, entertainment, and yes, opportunity. I came here from Winnipeg many years ago and have never been sorry. Except, maybe, for our occasional taste in mayors....

Toronto's perceived "expensiveness" is ONLY in renting and/or buying housing. EVERYTHING else is relatively cheap including groceries, haircuts, clothes, shoes - you name it. It is JUST the rent and housing that is expensive. I just moved from Toronto to Ottawa, and the prices at grocery stores in Ottawa are hilarious compared to Toronto. I LOVE Toronto!

Yeah, Let's be honest here. Toronto is the New York of Canada - it's the city people love to hate. Yes, it is very expensive to live and play here; it can be lonely living here, traffic and transit sucks just like taxes and job competitiveness; etc, etc, etc. Having said that, Toronto is the inudstrial heart of Canada. It is the place for business and people can become wealthy; it is a very multicultural city where one can enjoy and appreciate their own culture and others; yes we have a "BLACK" problem with gangs and guns that needs to be addressed - and that is not being racist; and Toronto has everything most people are looking for - something for everyone from culture and arts to sports and the availability of goods and services is second to none in Canada and argueably, the rest of the Western Hemisphere. ONE GREAT CITY!!!! Almost half of Canada's population lives in ONTARIO, the best province in Canada of most of Ontario's population lives in the GTA and the horsehoe valley - hmmmm......I wonder why???? Now there must be a reason.... what can it be... Peterborough?NO!!! Woodstock? NO! Brampton? NO!!!! TORONTO!!! DUHHH!

Over priced real estate. High Taxes. Constant traffic.

I've lived in TO for almost 20 years. I also like it and hate it... Everything is at your finger tips. No matter where you live in Toronto, you don't have to go far to find what you need. The transit is great (especially if you're like me and don't have a car). However, it is very expensive in every way. It's impossible to get ahead finacially (even though on paper my husband and I are middle class maybe even upper-middle class). We rent because we cannot afford to own. Also it is a very difficult place to make friends (if you move here as an adult). I eventually did make some good friends, but it wasn't easy. Actually thinking of moving in the next year. Ottawa might be a nicer place to raise our kids. ??

Toronto is has decent employment opportunities, but low salaries if you take into account that you have to compete with 100 other people for the job, then pay $500,000 for a semi-detached house with an hour commute. Health care sucks because of crowding. I live in Mississauagastan which is even worse for congestion than Toronto.

i lived in toronto on and off for 10 years and never made even 1 friend. my friends from the suburbs would travel to see me and we'd go clubing or to dinner. People are consumed in their own lives, I felt.

I grew up here and as much I love Toronto, I hate it too. I hate the high cost of living, unemployment. and a sudden increase of rude people. It wasn't always like this though. Toronto is becoming more and more like an American city. It's a huge city with an awesome transit system (16 yrs here and no car) and one will never run out of things to do, no matter time of day/night it is (specially if you are in the downtown core), but honestly, to enjoy the city properly you need a lot of $ and if you don't have it, well tough luck. Prices of everything is constantly on the rise and as mentioned above, unemployment is on the rise. I am actually considering moving, because I can't even get a part time job right now, let alone a career in my field of studies!

Toronto is a great City to live in. Great night life, Lots of parks, many good hospitals, best transit in Canada although its still behind compared to other parts of the world, Great return on property value, always something to do. The main issue with living in Toronto is the cost!

GIVE US A BREAK. Toronto is a great city to live in. The taxes do suck as they keep getting higher, the cost of living depends in the area, Downtown core is expensive but there are some people willing to rent at a very low rate. The atmosphere is amazing and there is always something to do every night, you just have to look, either in the newspapers or band websites. The pubs are great and the people are kind (most of us). You will enjoy this city any time of the year on your bicycle, lots of bicycle lanes and pedestrians everywhere. Huge city with a lot of different ethnicity. I love this city, sometimes though, you just want to get out of the pollution cloud and go camping in Kitchener! haha

Toronto is giant city with lot's of opportunities and lot's of issues as well. Expensive housing, high taxes, expensive food and insurance. On the other hand there are many good jobs, lots of good restaurants, entertainment, museums, etc . Weather is harsh in the winter and hot and humid summer time. You can go from -10C to +25C in 2 weeks in May. Some areas are slums and some areas are great! It all depends on who you are and how much money you have or make. I moved out 10 years ago to sunny Florida and now live in Seattle WA. Toronto compares well to any world city and offers a lot!

Tons of things to do - restaurants, theatres, sports teams. The downfall is getting around the city - within the downtown core the subway system and bus system work well, but I would hate to live beyond the subway service limits.

I think it says something about Toronto that all the other cities got real feedback of how good they are to live in... while Toronto only got scrutiny of one kind of another. Even though the negativity was not direct about Toronto, the negative energy is around Toronto (like people will correct you here more than any other place in Canada).

I HATE TORONTO

Actually toronto happens to be the capital of Ontario whereas ottawa is the capital of all of Canada.

ha,you retards just got trolled. this person said this to intentionally cause this reaction.

Potential to be a truly world class city is ruined by too much sprawl and a third world transit system.

i'm not even canadian and i know that! ottawa is in ontario but the capital of canada, toronto is the capital of ontario

whoever said ottawa is the capital of ontario you're wrong. Ottawa is the capital of all of Canada. Toronto is the capital of ontario!!!!!! And you wouldn't learn this off of t.v, you would learn it in a text book for grade 3's

Really? You think its Ottawa? wow. maybe you watch too much tv.

u don't watch tv!!??? it's Ottawa.